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Rifles - Dragunov Sniper:
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I have heard that Draganov sniper riffles are available in the United States, if this is so where can you find them, and are they as good as they say they are?
Knightmare <Ryans92@hotmail.com>
Concord, CA USA - Thursday, December 03, 1998 at 17:15:05 (EST) 


knightmare:

save your money, and dont buy a Dragunov unless you want to be laughed at by your serious sniping buddys or want to impress the neophytes on the range. ive never seen a Drag hold anything less than 2 MOA, and thats with "match" ammo. instead, think about buying a bolt gun. if your into slinging lead at a rapid rate go for an M1A or an AR-10.

kudu out
allen <kudu3@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, December 03, 1998 at 18:11:43 (EST) 



I am very familiar with the Dragonov's round, 7.62 x 54r. there is only one manufactor for it, Norma. they cost almost 30.00 a box of 20 iunless you buy the old military rounds that are berdan primed and usually corrosive. That expensive brass will have you afraid to shoot without knee pads to crawl arround on the ground after them. Mt Mosin Nagant shoots the same round and it is bolt action. The barrels is longer than a elephants "trunk" and it is very acurate! but it is because of barrel length and bolt, not carbine length and auto. the round fits between the 308 and 30-06 in size and capacity and is .308 cal. I never miss with it but I tested a Dragonov at a range once and was not overly impressed.

Mark <mmunds@utw.com>
slc, utah USA - Thursday, December 03, 1998 at 18:33:29 (EST) 



Knightmare - The Draganov SVD is an area sniper weapon system used at the squad level in the Russian Army. It was used so that direct fire can be placed on an attacking or probing element without giving away the location of the crew served weapons until the attack has been committed. It is not an overly accurate weapon and suffers greatly from barrle whip and stamped metal itis. It is a nice goly gee whiz rifle that you can mount on the wall along side of the Isreali version of it known as the Galil. Same principle and same results. Buy yourself a nice bolt gun and have fun shooting long range, or buy yourself a nice M1A, SR, or AR and have fun shooting a lot of rounds, just not as accurately as the bolt gun. Of course, since they are gas guns they are more sensitive to the elements and have to be pampered alot more than the bolt guns.

Rick <RBowcher@aol.com>
Fayetteville, NC USA - Thursday, December 03, 1998 at 23:31:32 (EST) 



I currently use a 30.06 bolt action. I was currious about the Draganov after hearing that the C.I.A was paying a pretty penny for them in the late 70's-80's. If they arent very accurate why the C.I.A interest?
Knightmare
USA - Friday, December 04, 1998 at 06:12:49 (EST) 
Knightmare,

is a Carcano a accurate Sniper Weapon ? You go and figure !

"Ende"
Torsten <lasercon@dialup.globe.de>
it is snowing, in Germany - Friday, December 04, 1998 at 08:44:48 (EST) 



To Knightmare:  If you had your mind on a Draganov do as Rick says and save your money.Have you ever shot an SKS or any AK derivative? Accuracy in this rifle is reportedly only marginally better than these.

If you want a poor boy's Draganov, take a SKS (D model with detachable magazine I believe) and mount your choice of any available thumb hole type stock and a cheap fixed power scope.You'll get about the same performance and your pocket book will thank you for the money you'll save.

Regards,
Jeff Babineau <2jeff@blaikies.ns.ca>
Truro, N.S. Canada - Friday, December 04, 1998 at 12:12:33 (EST) 



KNIGHTMARE,

I did a T&E on a Chinese Dragunov copy about 7 years ago, when all was said, done, and measured, it was nothing more than a wannabee OR "EXTENDED CAB" AK variant. What a waste!
Give me any old generic bolt gun i.e. Carcano/ SAVAGE / Moisin Nagant/ Lee Metford/ Krag and I'd feel a heck of a lot more secure in my abilities.

I second (third?) the current opinions presented on the rifle
peteR <PNGREIFF@AOL.COM>
BIG CITY, BY-GAWD USA - Friday, December 04, 1998 at 14:24:56 (EST) 



Knightmare - If you are financing a war in a foreign country that uses 7.62x54R ammunition, which sniper rifle would you buy? It would have nothing to do with accuracy. If you can't get ammo for the most accurate weapon in the world, then that weapon is now a club. Better to go with a weapon that is not as accurate, but that you can get ammo to fire from the weapon. Other problems avoided with the SVD was the lack of weapon maintainence at the operators level and in ability to maintain a very accurate weapon system.

Rick <RBowcher@aol.com>
Fayetteville, NC USA - Friday, December 04, 1998 at 22:32:05 (EST) 


I have a Russian Dragunov 7.62X54 Tiger Carbine. I am getting about 3 inch 100 yard groups from the bench. I beleieve this rifle should shoot better. Can any one help with loading data for this rifle? Thanks for any help.
Dan daley <dmdaley@pscnet.com>
Eugene, Oregon, USA - Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 17:04:22 (ZULU) 
Dan:

thats a keeper, I would be happy with 3 MOA at a 100 with a Dragunov.
They were made to put a lot of bullets down on single targets at distances were the Ak 47 would run out of Whomp.

sorry
Torsten <lasercon@dialup.globe.de>
toasting to the great Gunny, in, Germany - Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 17:31:37 (ZULU) 


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