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Grand Kittywhacker!

Is it even possible a M70 was assembled and marked "Columbia, S.C." prior to the March 2006 closing of the New Haven production facility?

I thought all final assembly was done in CT per union contract/agreement, and marked as such.

I am definately not talking about the new/upcoming FN M70.

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CT, USA - Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 00:41:00 (ZULU)


Greetings,

Joe: Congratulations to your son. The days of blood wings are long past. That said, when he is out of formation, pound the wings into his chest the first chance you get.  It does not seem possible that jump school was 25 years ago.

Georgia:  Russia is flexing it's muscle and it is a huge mistake to let it go unnoticed and unchecked.  The US needs to seriously consider arming the former Soviet states to discourge further incursions. At some point, an intervention in Georgia is not out of the question.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 01:50:50 (ZULU)


Pat II:  Me and the smadge are taking a rigged para kevlar that was worn into panama...it will plant the wings nicely.  WTF are they gonna do?  Arrest me?  Bawhawhaw.  On the russia thing, I wanna send you an analysis I have in digits (once i get back)  Hit me offline with a good email addy and I will get it to you next week.  You are spot on with your post--IMHO.

WR:  Gotta wait til i get the new turbine blades into the garret (and the bigger intercooler) before I add the meter.  But I will take notes on efficient gear/ RPM ranges.  The install is a PITA to the max, so I skipped it for now (needed the truck for the trip:))

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Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 02:04:51 (ZULU)


"Banks trans-command module is a must-have if you use an auto tranny in a towing situation.  Its da bomb! "

JoeM:  I have the Banks OttoMind tuner for the Cummins. I have not installed it yet - however lots of reading and talking with others say the Banks system - even tho pricey - will keep you from ruining a 10+ thousand dollar engine (powerstroke, cummins, etc) - and a auto-trans as well. With a tuner - these modern day turbo diesels will twist the world in half.

You might find that your best mileage does not happen at the "mileage" or "economy" setting on your tuner. Each person, truck, etc is different.

From what I can tell by reading, talking with others - your powerstroke oughta have a bit broader range of rpm/speed that gets the sweet mileage. My Farrier has a 2002/03 (I think) F250 w/powerstroke and the Banks system. He says that's the best thing since sliced bread for his truck.

take care out there,

Ken

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Nokesville, Va, Keep America - God Fearing, Armed and Free!!!.. - Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 14:13:35 (ZULU)


How would you like to fire a shot with a wheelgun and have the barrel fly off????

http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/Video/?action=view&current=taurus_boom_2.flv

Or click......

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WI, USA - Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 17:34:38 (ZULU)


JoeM-I hear you on time management (I think I finally fixed an itermittant electrical issue after a couple of years) and the space constraints of pickups.  Looked under the hood of a 2008 F450 the other day.  Can't figure out how anyone could do anything without pulling the cab off the thing.

I wish the stylists didn't get as much influence over (light) truck design as they do.  The bigger stuff is made to be worked on-or at least it used to be.  The smaller stuff seems to be engaged in a contest to see who can cram the biggest engine in the sleekest package.  

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Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 21:07:14 (ZULU)


All diesels should have a boost gauge, an exhaust gas temp gauge and a fuel pressure gauge.  With the EGT gauge being the most important, especially if you do any heavy pulling.  It lets you know what actually going on inside the motor.

Now this pertains to more of the "real" truck stuff and is targeted at Cummins especially, but it's worth reading if you've got time on your hands.  It shouldn't take long, I got through it in about 20 minutes and I keep going back to expand on certain aspects all the time.      

http://www.dieselinjection.net/BRUCE/articles.html  

BTW, automatic transmissions suck, except for the big Allisons and even those are for girls only ;)

BTW, Joe M, I'm looking at a schedule change in the near future that might free up an occasional weekend, if you want/need some wrench help, I'll be glad to come north and bring my tools.

S/F.....Ken M

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Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 22:00:53 (ZULU)


Ken, Diesel Injection of Pittsburgh has been reworking oil burners for decades.  They also have stuff for Cat & Powerstrokes.  They're real helpful on the phone too.

I found the boost gauge to be very educational. Real helpful on sucking the best fuel consumption on the big truck.  Wish I had one on the pickup, but couldn't figure out how to install the thing.

IIRC, I got the pickup gauges from Campers World.  Got the EGT for the big truck there too.  The boost gauge was from Summit Racing.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 23:07:01 (ZULU)


WR Moore, I know they have, but I've only been working on trucks(professionally) for 3 yrs now.  Before I was stuck with what Uncle gave me, and that 6.5 GM diesel is really a POS.  I'm on my 2nd BC Cummins and the one I have now is going to get some work at PP once I get some free time.

We just bought a 08 F450, got the V10 gasser.  In contrast with the Ford V10 gas motor, which is great, the new diesels are for s**t.  It's going to be nothing but glider kits from now on, for me anyways.  The new 6.7 Cummins seems to be OK, but I can't help but imagine how much better it would be without that 07 emissions crap hanging on it.  Everytime the one we have has been back to Pete, it's been for that emissions crap.  As for the big trucks, the ones targeted at the O/O market seem to be OK, the fleet trucks (FL's except the Classic, Volvos, KW 2000's,etc) are all shiite.  Yeah, most of the individual parts are OK, but in combination: junk.  IE FL Columbia with Steertek front axle and Detroit series 60 motor = monumental POS.  S/F....Ken M        

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Thursday, August 21, 2008, at 00:16:30 (ZULU)


Interesting take from Strafor on Russia v. Georgia - and what's to come. Click on my name for the link.

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Creede, Colorado, U.S.A. - Thursday, August 21, 2008, at 00:22:35 (ZULU)



Specific truck performance numbers -

FWIW, I just moved to the Morongo Basin area of California about 400 miles from the East Bay.  For those Rosterfarians unfamiliar with the area, it's really, really hot here. People go to the Mojave for cooler weather.

I have a 2001 F150 with a 4.5L V8 gasoline engine(approx 289 cid for some of us) with towing package, manual tranny, K&N filtercharger system,  headers n catback, some suspension upgrades and a camper shell.  I have a Hypertech engine performance program on the engine.  On the move, I was towing a trailer with about 1 ton of stuff, including my motorcycle.  

I set my rpm's at 2400 and cruised.  Got about 15 mpg for the 400 mile trip.  The engine was working, but not too hard.  Speed would creep up into the high 70's if I wasn't careful.  Unloaded, at 2400 rpm, speed is about 72mph for 17 mpg.  On the steepest grade, 7% for about 6 miles, flat out in third gear, I was going 37 mph at about 3800 rpm.  Not enough data for fuel consumption on that grade, but it was a concern for a few minutes.

Temperature ranged from 57*F when I left the East Bay to 107*F crossing the desert.

My wife followed me in her Camry and got 505 miles on one tank of gas, about 26 mpg.  At 80, the Camry gets about 20 mpg.

I had maintenance on the truck just before I left.  A coil had gone bad and had to be replaced.  Has anyone tried the grease pencil trick to find a sick cylinder?

It was a cool 97*F when I left work today...107*F at the house.

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SoCal, Left Coast, USA!! - Thursday, August 21, 2008, at 03:34:34 (ZULU)


Geoff M.

Whatta ya reckon the B.C. was on that barrel?

Lindy,

Pretty good article and a good "Reader's Digest" analysis. Thanks for the link.

jc

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Cordova, TN, United States - Thursday, August 21, 2008, at 06:49:02 (ZULU)


If you guys think the emissions crap on diesels is bad news now...Wait another couple years.You 'll be happy to have todays stuff then.

They are talkin a whole new ballgame for 2010 on the big ones.

As far as workin on them...depends on what it is.Twin turbo Cat in a 387 is no fun.Mercedes in a Freightliner will have you inventing new swear words.And the only thing that didnt leave me feelin bloody,bruised and like I had my ass kicked in a bar fight,in a Volvo... was driving one.Even changin the oil in a Volvo draws blood.Rather do Mack 'camelback' springs then a clutch in a Volvo that has an ISX under the hood.Far as that goes...I' ll do camelbacks for life if it will keep me from openin the hood of a Volvo or a 13 letter Shitspreader(International) ever again.

Joe,Your fuel mileage sounds pretty decent,to me.Know some guys w/gas motors that would love to get what your gettin.But then again too all I see are the big ones where 7.5mpg is "Good".

UnPat

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Wi, USA - Thursday, August 21, 2008, at 09:21:00 (ZULU)


Well...

I finely have a state agency investigation those bastards.

It is now an official criminal investigation by the Attorney Generals Office.

They said the first stage will take 4 or so months.

ow I can do something else with my time - like sue my first lawyer.

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'lito

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Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Thursday, August 21, 2008, at 17:52:46 (ZULU)


That's great news!

Go git 'em Kittywacker!!

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The Cradle of Naval Aivation, FL, USA - Friday, August 22, 2008, at 02:07:00 (ZULU)


22Mag Country,

Just picked up a little CZ 452 ina 22 mag for $175. Anybody played with one? Any "improvements" one could do such as trigger?

Optics- something in a 2-7 flavor or would you pimp it with a red dot kinda thing. This critter is like new and shot very little, so if you have any suggestions (with this crowd ??)...

Okay, pour something flamable and ignite...

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Hillbillyland, - Friday, August 22, 2008, at 04:05:44 (ZULU)


Scott:  cz452.com discusses improvements in detail.  A spring-kit is available for the trigger.  Timney makes a replacement.  Check out Nikon scopes.  Geoff Corn does a nice job of bedding a 452 or anything else.

That is a very nice rifle.

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Friday, August 22, 2008, at 04:17:44 (ZULU)



Scott, to add to CDC's tips...   the Burris rimfire rings mount up nice to the 11mm ridge on the back of the receiver.  I bought the 'lows', then the 'mediums' and my 40mm objective scope is still a wee bit too low to make the bolt throw comfortable... just food for thought.  There are a couple companies making a slide on conversion to a pic type rail....B-square and US Optics that I remember.

I think CZ makes one nice rifle for the money and it sounds like you stole the one you bought.  Good for you.  I also just picked up a Sako quad for my primary 22LR.... I like this rifle a whole lot.

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Friday, August 22, 2008, at 13:16:24 (ZULU)


re: rimfire rifles

I'm planning on purchasing a .22LR chambered bolt long gun.  Had narrowed down my choices to the synthetic stock Savage with heavy barrel or the CZ452 Silhouette (also synthetic stocked).

Have decided on the CZ, starting to accumulate accessories as a lead-up to the purchase.  Still up in the air on which of several possible approaches is the best for tuning/replacing the trigger.  Would like to set up with around 1.5Kg trigger weight, which would be similar to what I'm running in my F-class stick.

Open to recommendations...

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Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Friday, August 22, 2008, at 16:51:18 (ZULU)


Rod, take a look at the Sako quad, there is a lot to like about it.

-Available on gunbroker for $420

-synthetic stock, comes floated

-modular, replaceable barrels *

-short bolt throw *

-very good ergonomics right out of the box *

-great trigger, fully adjustable out of the box *

-good magazines, sit flush and feed clean (they are too expensive though)

-good barrel right outta the box, similar (same quality)as CZ

-very likely to have an aftermarket following, McM and Manners already support the inlet, drop in barrels already available from Lilja, Terry Cross (KMW) making a bolt knob for it.

The items with the "*" are where I give the quad the edge over the CZ and I have both.

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Friday, August 22, 2008, at 17:15:16 (ZULU)


Medicjim:

Alas, as a Canadian resident, Gunbroker pricing is as relevant to my situation as pricing in Peshwar, Pakistan :-(

(not whining, just observing).

    \\

Sako Quad in .22LR in Canada retails for $C864.94

http://www.lebaron.ca/pdf_files_fall08/hunting/sako_85_rifles.pdf

CZ 452 Silhouette in .22LR in Canada retails for $C490.

http://www.wholesalesports.com/onlinestore/control/category/~category_id=10414/~pcategory=10110018030482

A local dealer may be willing to simplify my purchase logistics on the CZ.  He also is a fan of the CZ rifles, which helps.

I'm looking for a .22LR practice rifle that won't be a significant limiting factor in my accuracy.

Both are substantially more expensive than the Savage offering.

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Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Friday, August 22, 2008, at 23:52:13 (ZULU)


22 country; Yesterday I went to the CMP store at Camp Perry, Ohio, to purchase an M1 Carbine. Also bought a Mossberg 22 target rifle for $175, they have 50 or so on the floor. Going back next week for a Kimber 22 heavy barrel, walnut target stock with rail,sights, new in box, $600. These were for a sniper training program and never used. Some have beautifuly figured walnut.Check out their website.

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toledo, ohio, usa - Saturday, August 23, 2008, at 02:26:57 (ZULU)


Guys,

As an aside, I've a friend who has another CZ 452 in 22LR (like new), with an expensive after market trigger, but I can't remember what make. Breakes very crisp and consistent. He's asking in the ballpark of $325. Anyone interested hit me off line.

Scott

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Hillbillyland, - Saturday, August 23, 2008, at 04:53:21 (ZULU)


Well I guess the old curse "May you live in interesting times" is true!

As a lot of you know, or if your "Old Timers" is kicking in did know, I'm a RN by profession. One of the things I swore, guess this is what I get for swearing, was I'd never be a traveller. Again guess I should never say never! Anyway I've become a traveling Nurse and I leave for my first assignment on Thurday. Have to be in Weatherford, Texas on Friday morning to do the HR stuff and some orientation. Think I actually start working Tuesday night but not sure of that just yet. One nice thing is Weatherford is only 2 1/2 hours south of BadLands so should be able to get up there for some shooting without much difficulty!

For the amateurs, you know what I mean, I will have 2 different 2m/440 rigs as well as a HF rig with me so contact may be a possibility!

Well things are about to get a whole lot more interesting!

Sarge

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Southern Area 51, NM, USA - Saturday, August 23, 2008, at 15:06:09 (ZULU)


CDC, sir,

You have e-mail with contact info

Thanks mang,

Scott

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Hillbillyland, - Saturday, August 23, 2008, at 16:23:57 (ZULU)


bad news for US reloaders who buy surplus components:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=386739

Slamfire1 writes:

"Jeff Bartlett told me that future demilling contracts forbid the sale of components. Everything will have to be burnt, or melted down for scrap.

This occurred when Congress was under the control of our "friends" the RINO Republicans.

Hope you stocked up."

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Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Sunday, August 24, 2008, at 03:07:11 (ZULU)



rod...

>""Jeff Bartlett told me that future demilling contracts forbid the sale of components. Everything will have to be burnt, or melted down for scrap.

This occurred when Congress was under the control of our "friends" the RINO Republicans."<

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I might be wrong on this one, but as I recall, it was Clinton that sprung that one through in an "Executive order", buried under about 9,000 others.

I was pretty good in civics, but I never read the part that the president could make laws "aw by hisself", without going through congress.

I can understand the need for "some" decisions being made fast, like the "Bay of TOnkin" (hee hee hee...) but ALL "Executive orders" should be ratified by Congress at the very next secession, or they immediately self destruct in 15 days.

This country is NOT the one I learned about when I was a kidlet, and not the one my father fought for... he is rolling over in his grave, along with millions of other folks that fought for this country - they were fighting for an idea, NOT a piece of real estate... especially real estate that could be taken by "Eminent domain" and sold to a sleazy developer!

I wish those "Old white guys" would have done a better job of writing the foundation bricks for the building of freedom, because those that followed are experts of "re-interpreting" all that lofty but vague language.

The president was never intended to have even one tenth of the power that he has, and the federal congress was NEVER intended to be the insatiably ravenous, growing monster that it has become.

We need those Ol' White guys to come back and re-do all the documents, like the second amendment the Constitution... it should read:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.  The Free state shall mean the full and complete country hereby called These United States.  The Militia and the People shall, now and forever, be defined as all of the common people who are lawful citizens, and the Militia shall be made up of every lawful citizen, and their responsibility shall be to keep the freedoms that so many have have fought and died for."

See... you gotta spell it out for the folks that get power hungry...

...or kill them!!

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'lito

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Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Sunday, August 24, 2008, at 18:18:50 (ZULU)


Strike third word from end of last paragraph "or" and replace with "and then" and I'd go with it.  There's too many people of this rock anyways, about half of 6.6 billion is more better'er.

S/F.....Ken M

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Monday, August 25, 2008, at 07:28:02 (ZULU)


Medicjim:

Have you done any parts tuning of your CZ452 trigger?

My current plan is to get the CZ452 Silhouette, do some parts tuning of the trigger and perhaps get some bedding done if needed by a local stock specialist.  That should still be a lot cheaper (in Canada) than the Sako Quad.

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Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Monday, August 25, 2008, at 12:58:19 (ZULU)


I bedded the CZ, but haven't made any changes to the trigger.  Mine is pretty darn good, a little heavy.  I'll probably give the Brooks kit a try...infinite adjustability on a rimfire rifle doesn't seem mandatory to me.

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Monday, August 25, 2008, at 14:47:39 (ZULU)


thanks for your thoughts on the CZ452, Medicjim.

Concur that infinite adjustability is not a big goal.  The Brooks kit has the charms of price, simplicity and support for international shipping.

http://www.cz452.com/springkit.html

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Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Monday, August 25, 2008, at 16:50:41 (ZULU)



Click for rimfirecentral.com.  They know this stuff.

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Tuesday, August 26, 2008, at 12:02:35 (ZULU)



Had my Cz452 American .17HMR for about 4 yrs now,Great lil rifle.Havent done anything to the trigger 'cept back it off abit.The stock one aint all that bad,once ya get used to them.To me,its a reminder that it has its own "soul".Been thinking about a Timney for it for little while,but its a "one of these days" kinda thing.

About a year back,I was talkin to a smithy and was informed that the barrels are threaded.So makin a caliber swap from .17HMR to .22mag shouldnt be all that difficult(?).Cant say for a fact wether thats true or not,as so far the HMR has dropped everything I have needed it too,and havent seen the need change it.

Brownells offers a replacement sear for the 452,and an even lighter spring.This was the route I had considered,untill I learned of the Timney.

UnPat

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Wi, USA - Tuesday, August 26, 2008, at 12:49:53 (ZULU)


Gents:  The young man (formerly known as "boy") came forward for the "next generation airborne" portion of the ceremony.  I was surprised at how few had family there of prior airborne vintage.  DA regs said "no bloodwings..." and they quoted that portion.  So I did it anyway.  But that was just the show part.  My son's big mistake was going to the far back of the formation for the general pinning ceremony.  The K-Pot idea went out the window---we decided on the steel pot, rigged airborne of course, to pound them in.  My ex took the pictures...probably not the best idea in the world, now that i think on it:))  FWIW, he is plenty full of himself, for all the right reasons.  And, we got him to the division and brigade we aimed for.  Working the battalion now--which is the easier part.  For me--it was just a hoot to be on the DZ and remembering pieces of jump school long forgotten.   It has changed significantly...but not really.

Well, as I figured: Intervention on the quiet to shore up the dollar.  China is our benefactor.  This is not good, but will we give a damn when gas prices fall because of it?  While the currency is being manipulated by dubious foriegn sources--the underlying fundamentals are still killing us:  We cannot export greenbacks indefinately.  Click

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Tuesday, August 26, 2008, at 13:55:28 (ZULU)


Deal for pistoleers...

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=139272&t=11082005

I don't have much use for this contraption but maybe some of you do.  The deal is pretty outrageous.

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Wednesday, August 27, 2008, at 19:32:14 (ZULU)


JoeM-congrats to the both of you.

Any bets on if you'll get copies of the pix?

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Thursday, August 28, 2008, at 05:57:22 (ZULU)



I think I got an interesting Poser.

Says he's...

>"Former Special Operations Sniper "Rangers, Lead the way!" <

Claims to have been an Army Special Operations sniper and trained at Quantico in 1979.

And he further says about his "Sniper rifle"

>"Catshooter: This rifle was AMU-built on a single-shot Mauser action, had a 28 inch heavy bull barrel, and had a Unertl 15 power externally adjustable telescope. I do not recall what the weight of the rifle was, but it was heavier than the M40 A1 that I shot when at the Quantico Scout/Sniper Instructor School in 1979.

Watching the trajectory of the bullet trace for 1,000 yard shots was like a laser, compared with the M118 we were shooting in the M40A1 rifles at the same range.

I was told that the 190 grain SMK had 1,550 fps velocity as it crossed the 1,000 yard pits. I can attest to the loud supersonic "snap" as the bullet passed me when pulling targets.

That was a great rifle.

Karl in Phoenix "<

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Anyone wanna comment on this one???

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'lito

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Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Friday, August 29, 2008, at 01:45:16 (ZULU)



'Lito- Gee, Robin Moore's book and a few assorted histories of SF state the SF motto as: De Oppresso Libre (devout apologies if I've mis-spelled this). Granted, a lot of SF guys come by way of the Rangers, but you'd have thought he'd have adapted to his new unit.

I'm just down the road from Q and there is/was cross-training by the Corps of personnel from other services. Master Rick would be much better qualified to pull the gillie off this clown.  

I'm having a senior moment or I'd give you the name of the range complex he'd have trained on-other than Weapons Training Battalion, Quantico.  [Calvin A. Lloyd?]

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Friday, August 29, 2008, at 02:57:19 (ZULU)


WR Moore,

Not to sound like I'm defending the guy, but Special Operations does not always equal Special Forces.

Now, with that out of the way, I've got my doubts about him.

But that's just me.

jc

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Cordova, TN, United States - Friday, August 29, 2008, at 05:07:08 (ZULU)


jc-you'll note I quote literature, not personal experience.  However, the guys I've met on loan to various other governmental departments were all SF.

Wonder what velocity (and using what case) you have to launch a 190gr SMK at to have 1550 as a retained V at 1K?  Off the top of my head, .300 Win Mag or .30/.338 might do it?  

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Friday, August 29, 2008, at 06:46:25 (ZULU)



WR...

The 190SMK will do 1625~ish at 1k with a muzzle velocity of 3100.

The standard M190-A round at 2950 will be doing 1525 at 1k.

The thing that smells bad is the Single shot Mauser, and the 15X Unertl with external mounts.

At that time, the AMU was having their rifles built at Remington and Winchester, and they were NOT using Mausers for anything.  Even back in WW2, our snipers never used Mausers (unless captured in the hedgerows).

And they had abandoned the external mount Unertl for newer designs.

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'lito

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Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Friday, August 29, 2008, at 12:20:23 (ZULU)


re: claimed sniper

The "...AMU-built on a single-shot Mauser action" tweaked my BS meter too.  I find it hard to believe that AMU would be using anything other than American commercial production actions for a build.  I would also doubt that AMU would be building a rifle intended for combat (as opposed to just competition) on a single-shot action of any kind, unless it was for a very big cartridge.

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Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Friday, August 29, 2008, at 16:53:29 (ZULU)


Re: Possible poser.

Have never heard of a rifle like that.

However, the Ranger battalions all have trained snipers, and I know some who went through the Marine Corps sniper school.

The Ranger snipers currently have a mixture of M110 SASS and Mk 13s, which is a Remington long-action in an Accuracy International chassis chambered for the government A191 .300 WM round. That 190SMK stays supersonic at sea level to 1250 yards or beyond.

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Creede, Colorado, U.S.A. - Friday, August 29, 2008, at 18:22:48 (ZULU)


"The thing that smells bad is the Single shot Mauser, and the 15X Unertl with external mounts.

At that time, the AMU was having their rifles built at Remington and Winchester, and they were NOT using Mausers for anything.  Even back in WW2, our snipers never used Mausers (unless captured in the hedgerows)."

That kinda smelled to me also.  However, I'm not real clear off the top of my head on when who adopted what in them thar days.  The thought did occur to me that the platform might have been used  either as a test bed for cartridge and/or suppressor development (wierd, whould have expected a more modern action) or as something cobbled together as "deniable".  Or might have been someones pet personal project.

Damn, I forgot to verify the name of the Quantico range complex!  Do believe my later thought to be correct.

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Friday, August 29, 2008, at 23:49:57 (ZULU)


From The Strategy Page

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/2008810222128.asp

The Sniper Revolution

by James Dunnigan

August 10, 2008

In Iraq and Afghanistan, infantry tactics have changed considerably over the last few years. This is largely gone unnoticed back home, unless you happen to know an old soldier or marine that remembers the old style of shooting. Put simply, the emphasis is on a lot fewer bullets fired, and much more accurate shooting. Elite forces, like the Special Forces and SEALs, have always operated this way. But that's because they had the skill, and opportunity to train frequently, to make it work. But the army and marines have found that their troops can fight the same way with the help of some new weapons, equipment and tactics. Plus lots of combat experience and specialized training. This includes the use of new shooting simulators, which allows troops to fire a lot of virtual bullets, in a realistic setting, without all the hassle and expense of going to a firing range.

One thing that helped, and that was developing for two decades, was the greater used of snipers. Currently, about ten percent of American infantry are trained and equipped as snipers. Commanders have found that filling the battlefield with two man (spotter and shooter) sniper teams not only provides more intelligence, but also lots of precision firepower. Snipers are better at finding the enemy, and killing them with a minimum of noise and fuss. But new rifle sights (both day and night types), have made all infantry capable of accurate, single shot, fire. With the emphasis on keeping civilian casualties down, and the tendency of the enemy to use civilians as human shields, lots of snipers, or infantrymen who can take an accurate shot at typical battle ranges (under 100 meters), are the best way to win without killing a lot of civilians.

New sniper equipment has made a big difference. The U.S. Army has been issuing the new M110 SASS (Semi-Automatic Sniper System) to troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. This weapon is not a big technological breakthrough. It is based on the older AR-10 rifle. The U.S. Navy has been buying a similar weapon, the SR25. This is also known as the Mk11 Sniper Rifle System (SRS). These new semi-automatic sniper rifles are 7.62mm weapons based on the designs of M-16 creator, retired USAF Colonel Gene Stoner. The basis for the M-16 was the AR-15, and a 7.62mm version of that weapon was called the AR-10. About half the parts in the SR25 are interchangeable with those in the M-16.

The Stoner sniper rifles achieved its high accuracy partly by using a 20 inch heavy floating barrel. The "floating" means that the barrel is attached only to the main body of the rifle to reduce resonance (which throws off accuracy.) The M110 weighs 17.3 pounds in combat, and about 70 pounds with all components of the system. The M110 can use a ten or twenty round magazine. The 40.5 inch long rifle can have a six inch tube attached to the barrel, which reduces the noise and flash made when the rifle fires, and largely eliminates nearby dust rising into the air, which often gives away the snipers position.

Previously, many snipers have had success using tuned up M-14s (from the 1960s) as sniper rifles. While semi-automatic and rugged, the M14 wasn't designed to be a sniper rifle. The AR-10 was a better model for a semi-automatic sniper rifle, since it is inherently more reliable and accurate. As far back as World War II, it was known that there were many situations where a semi-automatic sniper rifle would come in handy. But it's taken over half a century to solve the reliability and accuracy problems.

The M110 has largely replaced the bolt-action M24, and provided commanders with much more effective snipers. That increase in numbers (of snipers) and their effectiveness, has changed the look (less random fire from U.S. troops) and feel (the U.S. troops appear more in control) of the battlefield. It's also easier to spot the enemy. He's usually the guy firing on automatic. The fellows firing one shot at a time are the Americans, and they are usually the last ones standing.

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Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Saturday, August 30, 2008, at 03:38:52 (ZULU)


"Currently, about ten percent of American infantry are trained and equipped as snipers."

That's complete B.S. I wish it were true, but the service schools and every civilian-run training facility in the U.S. couldn't make it so.

And obviously the author doesn't know what a suppressor is, either - "...six inch tube attached to the barrel, which reduces the noise and flash made when the rifle fires, and largely eliminates nearby dust rising into the air..."

Oh, well.

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Creede, Colorado, U.S.A. - Saturday, August 30, 2008, at 04:01:24 (ZULU)


10%?

""Till he was aware of his father's mare with Kamal upon her back,

And when he could spy the white of her eye, he made the pistol crack.

He has fired once, he has fired twice, but the whistling ball went wide.

""Ye shoot like a soldier," Kamal said. "Show now if ye can ride.""

"Ballad of East and West"____Kipling.

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Saturday, August 30, 2008, at 04:56:18 (ZULU)


"Currently, about ten percent of American infantry are trained and equipped as snipers."

Methinks they confuse Dedicated Marksmen with snipers.  They're not the first.

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Saturday, August 30, 2008, at 09:39:40 (ZULU)


"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,

and the women come out, to cut up what remains,

just roll to your rifle, and blow out your brains,

and go go your Gawd like a soldier."

-Kipling

I'm home for a couple of weeks.  And I'm really enjoying what the greatest country on Earth had to offer, freedom.  (and Tex-Mex food)It's been over a quarter of a century since I've travelled overseas, and it's good to do, it reminds me that, as screwed up as some things are, we live in a virtual Paradise.  I can even laugh at the political battles going on.....I was a hundred feet away from Obama when he landed in Kabul, with an M240 and a full belt.  Sigh.

I'll be at Badlands come Monday.  Joe, congrats on your son.  

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San Antonio, Texas, USA - Saturday, August 30, 2008, at 16:14:30 (ZULU)


Click for Steyn on Palin.  She's my kind of girl.

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Sunday, August 31, 2008, at 03:43:58 (ZULU)


"I was a hundred feet away from Obama when he landed in Kabul, with an M240 and a full belt."

That statement alone shows they are spending to much time emphasizing "weapon discipline" ....and not enough on "threat identification".If only he would have run over an IED...or encountered some of Hitlery's "sniper fire",that we are still hearing about.....Kinda sad when ya cant count on the enemy to do ya a favor.

Got H-D's 105th in full swing...been tryin anything I can to avoid the madness of it,And when Angel asked if I would go along to pick up her kid from helpin out up at my Sis's place.I was only to happy to go.Had 2 rifles and my range bag packed in the Explorer before ya could say "Road Trip".

UnPat

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Sunday, August 31, 2008, at 10:15:47 (ZULU)


A local gun butcher screwed-up the installation of a fixed Novak sight on one of my 1911s so I sent it to someone who was supposed to know what he was doing.  You can now see daylight under the rear sight.  I don't trust it and want to be sure it never moves again.  Do any of you gentlemen have any suggestions?  Silver solder, perhaps?  

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Sunday, August 31, 2008, at 12:41:31 (ZULU)


CDC'- Possibly the silver solder; maybe JB Weld or some two-part epoxy?  Which ever makes it "fixed", yet able to be repaired/removed when/if needed.

Good luck...

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Dago, Kali, USofA - Sunday, August 31, 2008, at 12:52:06 (ZULU)



CDC...

>"Click for Steyn on Palin.  She's my kind of girl."<

Good read!!

I was so disenchanted with McCain that I was thinking of Bob Barr or just staying home.

When I found out her Creds, I laughed out loud - McCain has done put a torpedo in Obama's campaign that he can't survive.

Life member of the NRA... does she have a single sister??

McCain will now get most of the white woman's vote that are not dedicated lefties, and a fair amount of the black woman's vote...

... while the press takes Bidden apart.

About a month ago, Rushbo said, "We couldn't be so lucky as to have Obama pick Bidden"...

... and then he DID!

Bidden has tons of baggage, including his son who is smack in the middle of the old "Washington lobbiest" culture, and Bidden has been passing bills for his son's firm (can you spell - "Duh").

I coudn't figure Obama picking Bidden - he is universally disliked by the public, and his stage pressence is one of smirking and contempt. That will go over big with the current public, who has a 9% approval of "Old Washington"... but I think the other guys on the short list said "No" to Obama, cuz they see Obama going down - either in November, or in four years, taking the other guy with him.  And a good, solid job as a Senator or Governor, is much better than being an also ran, or a failed, has been, vice president.

I'm gonna vote this time fersure fersure!  :))

I LOVE THAT WOMAN!!!

-

'lito

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Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Sunday, August 31, 2008, at 13:27:27 (ZULU)


CDC on rear sight rework:

Good epoxy would be my recommendation too.  Simplifies options later, and avoids higher heat on the slide.  You can always decompose the epoxy later with a heat gun or low temperature oven to permit removal.

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Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Sunday, August 31, 2008, at 14:21:51 (ZULU)


Lito, All -- I'm in a whole lot mo' better'er mood since I heard the announcement about Palin for McCain's running mate.

I have to say this -- Lito and you other Hawgs: THE NEXT TIME I HEAR OR READ " I'M SITTING THIS ONE OUT" OR " I'M NOT VOTING", OR "I'M VOTING FOR XXXX (SOME DAMN NAME NEVER FRIGGEN HEARD OF)"....I'M GONNA TAKE A MID YEAR PRODUCTION REM PSS BARREL (not worth sh*t) AND BEAT THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF WHOEVER THAT IS.

EVERY DAM ONE OF YOU BETTA GET OUT AND VOTE EITHER FOR THE ONE YOU LIKE THE BEST OR THE ONE THAT YOU DISLIKE THE LEAST.... (AND IT BETTA NOT BE OBAMA EITHER - LOL).

Thats all :))

(running for cover).

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Nokesville, Va, Keep America - God Fearing, Armed and Free!!!.. - Sunday, August 31, 2008, at 22:08:17 (ZULU)