Sniper Country Duty Roster

January 1996

From: Russell E. Taylor <DQBW77A@PRODIGY.COM>
Date: 3. Jan 96 6:42
Having read a few comments concerning Carlos Hathcock, perhaps more than a few folks would be interested to know how he is doing. Pointedly, Gunny Hathcock is feeling the increasing burdens of his affliction with MS... he is in the kind of shape that someone of his accomplishments and courage should not be in. He and his lovely wife Jo are getting by as best as can be expected. Recently, a raffle (for a sniper rifle similar to the one he used in Viet Nam) was held. The proceeds, I am told, exceeded $100,000 (at $2.00 per ticket) will help defray some of the staggering medical costs he has incurred. Points of interest: a shooting range is being opened in Washington (state) in his honor and, though he is currently unable to accept such an offer, someone in Switzerland offered to bring him to that country for a little R & R. Carlos, though his "fame" was earned many years ago, is not forgotten. There is currently an effort to have him put in for the Congressional Medal of Honor. If you're interested, you are encouraged to contact your legislators. Gunny Hathcock is a "quiet patriot," and generally shuns attention, but he is still willing to give of himself and continues to possess his marvelous sense of humor. Again, Dave, this is a great site for those interested in the sniping profession, and keep up the great work.

From: Jere Johnson <Jerej@vt.edu>
Date: 3. Jan 96 8:54
1966-1968 U.S.Marines Company Sniper for K-company 3rd Batt., 26th Reg. 5th Division.

From: Bach Melick <bmelick@beta.loyno.edu>
Date: 3. Jan 96 15:16
Interesting page. I just got a new rifle and am waiting for warm weather to break the barrel in. I'm sure I'll be back to your Sniper's Corner for long range shooting tips.

From: sniper gulledge
Date: 3. Jan 96 16:22
I AM VERY SORRY MR. TAYLOR, I WAS OUT OF LINE AND I HOPE YOU ARE WILLING TO FORGIVE ME.YOUR OBVIOUSLY TWICE THE SNIPER I AM.MR.TAYLOR WHY DID YOU TURN DIRECTIONS IN THE MILITARY?AND DAVID WHAT MODEL GUN AND SCOPE DID YOU USE? COOOOOOOOOOOOOL SNIPERS DO EAT THIER DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!1

From: Jay Williams <williamsjp@psns.navy.mil>
Date: 3. Jan 96 17:23
Cool page, Gary! I especially liked the info on the mods you made to your Ruger.

From: Russell E. Taylor <DQBW77A@PRODIGY.COM>
Date: 3. Jan 96 21:40
"Sniper Gulledge:" If you would prefer to correspond with me directly, please feel free to make use of my E-mail address. 

From: Eric
Date: 3. Jan 96 23:13
Scout Sniper, U.S.M.C. 1986-1992. Served with 3rd Bn 8th Marines, 2nd Mar Div, Head Quarters and Service Company, "STA Platoon." Loving Every minute of it!

From: Jay Williams <williamsjp@psns.navy.mil>
Date: 4. Jan 96 14:36
I agree with Russ. Sniper Interactive needs more choices (Also more missions! I know. It takes time.). It's a lot of fun, though. I especially enjoyed it up until the part where my whole team got blown away!!!

From: Mark Humphreys <mdh6278@evt.fse.ca.boeing.com>
Date: 4. Jan 96 16:02
I own a couple HK-91's. I am trying to locate someone who can provide a heavier/match-grade barrel for them. Any suggestions? I appreciated your article about the cryogenic stress relief process, it was quite an eye opener. Keep up the good work.

From: sniper gulledge
Date: 5. Jan 96 15:28
MR Taylor you've got prodigy and I'm on netscape so I can't e-mail you.But I enjoy talking with you.

From: Tyler Jennings
Date: 5. Jan 96 15:35
United States Navy SEAL.I was on SEAL Team 5 during Desert Storm (you know that little pussy war) and ran missions o-plenty.This is the first time I've been on the net.This location is a real blast.HERES ONE FOR YOU SNIPES.....IF THERE ALL NOT ALIVE,IT WAS SEAL TEAM FIVE....

From: mike hicks <hicksm@maas.net>
Date: 5. Jan 96 18:11
I e-mailed ya about a 22-250 BDL, and this is just a follow up! 

From: Bobby <shutur@vixa.voyager.net>
Date: 5. Jan 96 19:29
Great page. My cohorts and I have been enjoying long range shooting for just a short while and are having a ball. Your page is just the ticket for news and information and I thank you.

From: Russell E. Taylor <DQBW77A@PRODIGY.COM>
Date: 5. Jan 96 23:07
I just watched an episode of "Homicide" tonight on NBC; the story dealt with some sniper running around with an "HK" killing people in conjunction with his playing of the game "hangman." I watched this show because I admit I don't often get a chance to see any shows about snipers. Even though it was some bad guy who shot noncombatants (women and kids, too), I still thought the story line was a little weak. It was obvious the writers had been working with someone who had some knowledge of sniping (you been freelancing lately, Dave?), but they could have done a bit more to enhance the material... unless they were afraid of "motivating" some sicko-psycho into becoming another Charles Whitman or the like. Did anyone else see this show and, if so, what did you think of it? By the way, Mr. Gulledge, you should have no problem sending me E-mail across the Internet if you use my full address. I regularly exchange E-mail with a friend who is on Netscape without any difficulty whatsoever.

From: Jim Smith <josii@tcd.net>
Date: 6. Jan 96 3:22
Just surfin' through and thought I would check out some high accuracy info.

From: TOM FERRAN,aka "MOOSE" THE SNIPER <ferran@edge.net>
Date: 6. Jan 96 17:50
DAVE, Just checking in on the 'net'. You have a great concept here. Excellent opportunity to propagate the sniping profession. Keep up the good work.

Tom Ferran Scout Sniper, 7th Marines, RVN, '67 (Advisor to Tristar's movie "SNIPER")

From: William Tanner <wtanner@oneworld.owt.com>
Date: 6. Jan 96 22:06
The 14th annual Law Enforcement Counter Sniper Seminar will be held in Wash. State this spring. It would be nice to see some new faces.

From: Mike Riffle <kneiper@aol.com>
Date: 6. Jan 96 22:31
Great Site!!! It's great that someone has the b*lls to talk about he real purpose of Military long-range shooting. Keep it up!

From: Jay Williams <williamsjp@psns.navy.mil>
Date: 8. Jan 96 13:50
Dave,

I just read your Sniper's Corner editorials. I hadn't even seen them before! I enjoyed them very much! Keep 'em coming as time permits!

From: donald paterson <nbcc woodstock>
Date: 8. Jan 96 13:50
You have a great sight here, don't ever take it away I have been doing long range shooting for a few years and I think that it's the greatest thing that I have ever done.Keep up the good work. THANX

From: R E Lee <192.188.37.66>
Date: 8. Jan 96 14:10
Thanks for all the tips Dave your info got me 2 feet away from the elk I was hunting with my'06 now when my friends see that near record bull on my wall I have you to thank kepp the site alive SEMPER FI

From: Deputy T.Carroll <TLC@ROLLANET.ORG>
Date: 9. Jan 96 10:01
Dave, Have any info on a 9mm top end for an H-Bar AR-15? TLC@ROLLANET.ORG 

From: Glenn Seagraves <GlennSeagraves@ColumbiaSC.attgis.com>
Date: 9. Jan 96 13:44
Awsome Site! About Time. I am an X-Marine Sniper and an X-Naval Spec Warrior (MIUW). Keep up the good work. If you ever need another location for your web site or additional resources, scanning, etc., let me know.

From: SNIPER GULLEDGE
Date: 9. Jan 96 16:03
MR.TAYLOR I'VE TRIED AND TRIED TO E-MAIL YOU,BUT I CAN'T........DAVE LETS GET SOME NEW INFO IN HERE,WE'RE GETTING BORED....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................REALLLLLLLLLLLL BOREDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.....................................................................................................................................................O.K. 

From: David R. Reed <daveed@net-connect.net>
Date: 9. Jan 96 16:27
Sorry folks, with the holidays, the SHOT Show in Dallas, and all of the work I have to do this site has taken a back seat lately. I'll work on it some this weekend. I have som new stuff to put on for patrolling and some updates for operation Weasel Dust. I will hopefully be adding some new blood to the site soon. I have asked in rec.guns for aspiring gunwriters to submit articles but I've had no response. My strategy is to add a couple of pretty big names to the site soon, but we have to work out the details first. (Sorry, no names until I have their agreements) If you are really bored, send me an order for a T-shirt!! :) The money is for a good cause -- disk space for graphics, sound, and more articles!

From: Russell E. Taylor <DQBW77A@PRODIGY.COM>
Date: 9. Jan 96 18:16
Dave: I understand you've been a busy fellow, so I'll just be patient and look forward to the new things you're planning to add in the near future. "Sniper Gulledge:" Easy on the cap locks! Leave your E-mail address, and I'll write to you.

From: Ken Brown <GK BLACK AOL.COM>
Date: 9. Jan 96 22:26
Cool page, if you want to have some fun check out Police Quest SWAT, it has a sniper role in it.

From: Jay Williams <williamsjp@psns.navy.mil>
Date: 11. Jan 96 13:54
After some casual perusal, I found that the homepage of the Indianapolis Star is "www.starnews.com." I was unable to find the aforementioned article on Army snipers in Bosnia at the site, but, specific articles and back issues of the Star can be had. Check out their customer service page at: www.starnews.com/custserv/gen_serv.html. I may do some more snooping around and, if I find anything, I'll let all you other 'fans' know. I'd also like to know if any of you find anything.

From: Brent Pennell <pennell@ix.netcom.com>
Date: 11. Jan 96 17:22
GREAT WEB SITE!!!!

I would like to see some information on evading FLIR and other NODs. I've also seen an article on Anti-sniper radar. Is there such a thing and how do you evade it??

From: Dick Laabs <dickl@execpc.com>
Date: 11. Jan 96 19:48
Appreciate the chnce to tour your system Thanks Dick Waukesha,WI 

From: Anonymous
Date: 12. Jan 96 9:25
This in reference to Brent Pennell's question concerning "anti-sniper radar." There is a ground radar, that is inherent in most ground infantry units. This radar has a range out to about 500 meters, as for anti-sniping, well it could be used for allot of things, I suppose.

From: Mike Osborn <mosborn@powernet.net>
Date: 12. Jan 96 13:34
Just found your web site. Looks fantastic!! Your interactive sniper missions look great too. Thanks for the sight.

From: Brent Pennell <pennell@ix.netcom.com>
Date: 12. Jan 96 14:06
The anti-sniper radar I read about was a new technology that would plot the trajectory of a bullet and pinpoint the place it originated. The article suggested placing the radar in high risk areas such as the White House.

From: David L. Baker <dbaker@airmail.net>
Date: 12. Jan 96 15:28
Does anybody have a phone number or address for Precision Shooting magazine? Is there a place where I can get 308 Fed. Match ammo at a discount? I am still gasping over the retail prices!

From: Jay Williams <williamsjp@psns.navy.mil>
Date: 12. Jan 96 17:33
Brent: That anti-sniper radar sounds pretty cool. However, I don't think Bill & Hillary have anything to worry about given the quality of shooters who have made assaults on the Whitehouse so far. At this point, I'll shut my mouth before I get in trouble or say something I wish I hadn't.

From: Duane Frye <Crowbar@ix.netcom.com>
Date: 12. Jan 96 19:10
Good site. Lots of good stuff. Keep it up!

From: MARK H. <C90747@AOL.COM>
Date: 12. Jan 96 20:22
FIRST TIME LOOKING AROUND HERE. THINK IT IS GREAT!

From: MARK H. <C90747@AOL.COM>
Date: 12. Jan 96 20:22
FIRST TIME LOOKING AROUND HERE. THINK IT IS GREAT!

From: dennis <headshot@earthlink.net>
Date: 12. Jan 96 23:27
Hi all, just wanted to see what all the fuss was about. I recently graduated from Carlos Hathcock's school in Virginia (top marksman if I may brag) and I am willing to help with any questions. Just E-mail me. See ya.

From: Russell E. Taylor <DQBW77A@PRODIGY.COM>
Date: 13. Jan 96 1:40
To David L. Baker: I don't have any of my Precision Shooting magazines with me right now (I'm at work), but -- per Gary Turner's home page -- the telephone number for PS magazine is: (216) 882-2515. For your question about the Federal match ammunition in .308 Winchester (GM308M), I personally don't know of a "discount house" for it. A gun dealer can (if he wants to) get you a good deal on the stuff if he buys in quantity, but for smaller quantities you're better off buying it at a local retail establishment. A gun dealer must pay "hazardous material" shipping charges on every order of gun powder, primers, and ammunition. So, even if you could get a dealer to order you some Federal match at "cost," say one or two boxes of 20 rounds, the delivery (regular and special) costs would make it more expensive than if you'd bought it at Wal Mart, K's Merchandise, or just a gun shop. Federal match ammo is certainly not cheap but, if you ask any of us on this Duty Roster, there's a reason why it costs ry (uch and why people continue to pay for it... IT'S ACCURATE!!! Unless you're a police sniper or the like, why not reload your own? I reload my own ammo, and have found a loading (using VV N-140) that (only BARELY) beats Federal match ammo. I've had very good luck with Varget as well. If you ever do find a place that sells Federal match at a "discount"... send me an E-mail, and don't tell anyone else, okay?!

From: David L. Baker <dbaker@airmail.net>
Date: 13. Jan 96 2:09
To Russell E. Taylor Thanks for prompt and informative response. I certainly appreciate the info. I'll give Precision a call. Is there a match grade brass house for 308 or do you sort, size and turn selected ammo mfrs. brass?

From: 2Lt H.J. Halterman <changing servers>
Date: 13. Jan 96 14:11
poetry call- addition

Snipers' day

The Sun's come up: another day is here for snipers' play. You know the sniper, shooter who is proud of aim both straight and true before that single crashing shot -and almost never more than two- will find its mark. This sniper does not shoot a lot.

Sun sinking low: it marks the end of day near done, and with its waning light it harks to bullet fired, cartridge spent: the sniper knows just where it went. 2Lt H.J. Halterman 1968

From: Jim Siple <davisdemo@penn.com>
Date: 13. Jan 96 19:36
Dave, I really like your site and have found it most informative. Although I don't normally do a lot of long range shooting I found several tips that I think will really help me in my hunting pursuits. After suffering a serious shoulder injury about 2 years ago and finding that I could no longer tolerate the recoil from my 30.06 due to the pain it caused me and not being overly impressed with the performance of the 243 on large game, and doing much research on it as well as talking to a lot of my fellow shooting friends, and thanks to several of them for lending me theur outfits to try out I purchased a 7mm08 Rem heavy barly outfit for hunting grounhogs and other varmints. I was so impressed with the performance of this outfit even with the factory ammo that I bought to obtain brass that I immediately purchased another in Rem 700 Bdl for all of my hunting pursuits to date my longest shot was A recorded 473 yards on a groundhog and 329 yards on a whitetail deer. I have started several new hunters with this same outfit and have had great success with it. The recoil is about the same as the 243 but due to the available bullets I have found it much more versatile. I would highly reccomend it to anyone who cannot tolerate recoil and who is unwilling to put up with the blast caused by a muzzle brake. I'm still playing with loads and continue to gain increasing accuracy through my efforts. both outfits consistently produce 5/8 inch 5 shot groups at 100 yards and I have several that are under 1/2 inch. I have chronographed the current load that I'm using and was suprised to find how close to 7mm mag velocities that this caliber can produce with about half the recoil. If anyone is interested in more info they can email me at davisdemo@penn.com and Iwill reply as soon as time permits. Thank you for a great site that I will tell all my friends about and plan on printing all of your info to pass on to several of my non computer using friends in the hopes that I can convert them. Again Thank you Sincerely Jim Siple

From: D.A. Wyatt <dawyat19@tcd.net>
Date: 14. Jan 96 11:09
Great site. USAF EST (SWAT) sniper. Keep up the good work. ( 1* )

From: Chris B. Leyte <a7qa@unb.ca>
Date: 14. Jan 96 13:42
Very impressive.

From: David R. Reed <daveed@net-connect.net>
Date: 15. Jan 96 20:10
Just a test!

From: Pekka Parviainen <pparviai@phoenix.oulu.fi>
Date: 16. Jan 96 7:47
HI!

These sniper pages are Truly GREAT! Wery informative and down to busines!

I found a lot of useful information and will be back for more thorough examination!

Most of the stuf here is new to me but this section of arctic survival is close to me. I live in Oulu, Finland and my hobbie include hiking, around the year and I would like to add to this survival thing couple of things: - Water, avoid it: Getting wet with falling in or sweatting is deadly unless You have a shelter allready or dry clothes to change. If you work hard or travel fast take off as much clothing as you can. And when you stop add it right away! Also keep your shelter dry! This does not even mean extreme conditions! close to 0° C is enough! - keep fingers and feet warm, if you can't use yor finger and feet, you are dead! Warmest place for your fingers is with your "little Fellow", between your thigs. Keep moving if you can't maintain your body temperature otherways. Dying of cold is quiker than of exhaustion in cool to cold weather(colder than -0°- -5°). - Think. Make it hard way if you are not sure!

For confort it is to know that dying of cold is a easy way out. After you lose feeling.

For example usually in candinavia (Norway, Sweden, Finland) we lose couple of people every year of cold, usually tourists from Middle Europe an Southern parts of our countries. Last one I remember was a Swish couple who were skiing in lapland (day trips, stayed in a hotel) They were caught by bad wether an tried to shortcut to a warm cabin. As it later appeared they left the marked, hard trail 4-5 km (1/2+ hr skiing) before cabin and were found some 600 meters from cabin next morning, in thigh deep snow.Frosen solid.

So.

Thanks for your moment and Wonderful Web Site!

____ Pekka Parviainen ____ Oulu, Finland

From: K W <ironturner@aol.com>
Date: 17. Jan 96 0:58
Must agree with your opinion of Horiuchi. As a law enforcement sniper though he should never have accepted any ANY unlawful order regardless the channels received. I personally am aquainted with the training these people have received and know he knew better. Would like more info on your page and doctrine before signing on Duty Roster. Nice to know there are others out there like me..

No exceptions... K W

From: Shep Pharis <spharis@stargazer.netshop.net>
Date: 17. Jan 96 4:40
Great Web Page! It's good to see someone stand up for firearms publicly at last. I can't say I'm a certified sniper, but I figure I'm pretty damn good at long range shooting, and enjoy your page thouroughly. Keep `er goin'. :)

From: marty <marte@annap.Infi.net>
Date: 17. Jan 96 6:21
Currently shoot a 30-378, am building a6mm\300wm ( I'm going to try the cryo thing on finished barreled action). Would like to here from fellow wildcatters.

From: Brian Miller <brianmi@atm.com>
Date: 17. Jan 96 9:13
The information about survival in the field is OK, but here's something I heard on the radio:

A few years ago, a young man went on a bit of a walkabout in the U.S. He went up into Alaska to test himself against the wilderness, armed with a .22 and some supplies. His rotting corpse was found in an abandonded bus by some hunters.

They found his diary next to his body. He had written that he had become sick, and was hoping that someone would come by soon and be able to get him to a doctor. The autopsy reports showed that he wasn't sick: He had eaten a poisonous plant.

The radio article (from NPR's "Fresh Air") said that this was a plant which works very insidiously. The poison does not make you sick or kill you outright. What happens is that it prevents the digestive system from absorbing nutrients from the food you eat. The reason this plant was not listed in any guide book was that nobody had ever studied it before. (The name of the plant was not mentioned in the radio article)

So let this be a lesson to you. If you eat some unknown plant and it doesn't make you sick, it might still kill you. Learn the varieties of edible plants in your area of operation, and stick to them.

From: Bob Wetherell <rwether@hubcap.clemson.edu>
Date: 17. Jan 96 13:48
THE best sniping site I have ever seen. I can not wait for the rest of the RPG. Bob

From: Chris Carusona <carusona@nsccux.scdd.ctc.edu>
Date: 17. Jan 96 14:33
I really like to get more information on your company or products 

From: David Reed <daveed@net-connect.net>
Date: 17. Jan 96 17:51
Chris Carusona -- Your email address is invalid (or something). 

From: Justin Wilson <j2sw@expert.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: 17. Jan 96 22:01
Very well put together page. I liked the format and the content. 

From: Mike Blair <dmike53@ix.netcom.com>
Date: 18. Jan 96 13:08
Marine Corps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: George McGinty <gmcginty@moscow.com>
Date: 18. Jan 96 16:28
Great site!!! Ref. Horiuchi. He serves the purpose of making all of us LE snipers work harder. Damned if you do--damned if you don't.

From: Ken Peirce <kpeirce@usr.com>
Date: 19. Jan 96 15:52
I was on a high school rifle team for a couple of years. We used to shoot Anschutz .22's. We also used slings while shooting. I have not been able to find a proper sling in any store. When I shot DCM matches, you weren't allowed to use them so I didn't bother looking. Does anyone out there know of a place where I can get a top notch sling?

From: Russell E. Taylor <DQBW77A@PRODIGY.COM>
Date: 19. Jan 96 23:52
Ken Peirce: There are several manufacturers of slings you may want to consider, but it really depends on what you want to spend and what you want the sling for. I assume, from what you wrote, that you want a sling you can use for shooting, not just one to carry the rifle around in the field during a hunt. I have two "Competitor Plus" rifle slings (1 1/4" w/ Michael's QD Super Swivels) on a couple of my rifles, an M1 Garand and my Savage 110 FP Tactical... both chambered for .308 Winchester. These can, of course, be used to carry the rifle on your shoulder, but I bought them expressly to use for shooting.

I have a custom-built, very accurate, .416 Remington Magnum that sports a different type of sling, one I purchased from Butler Creek. I would not consider, seriously, using this sling for shooting -- rather, I bought it because of its design, which is basically an elastic/nylon/padded combination. As you walk, with your rifle hung over your shoulder, most other slings allow the weight of the rifle, intensified about three times or so each time your foot hits the ground, to be felt directly... a bit uncomfortable when your carrying a 12-pound rifle that will take down anything on the planet. So, while I wouldn't use such a sling as a shooting sling, it does function quite well -- sort of like a shock absorber -- when I've got "Bwana" strapped over my shoulder. For leather shooting slings, their are several types, as I'm sure you're aware, but you probably have an idea of the type you want. Look in the catalogs of the "big name" holster makers... some of them also make shooting and/or carrying slings. Look inside a Creedmoor Sports catalog, there are some slings in there, too. Slings can be kind of pricey, or dirt cheap, but --- as with most things --- you get what you pay for. Once you do get a sling, especially if it's leather, treat your sling as a "tool," the way you would care for optics or the gun itself. Leather has many advantages, but because it is an organic material it is a bit more easily subject to "the elements." Most modern leather slings are probably more resistant to weather and so on, but you should still give proper care to your sling as you would to all your other shooting equipment. One other sling source you might try is Rifle magazine. Finally, if you get a leather sling, consider getting a couple of extra "keepers," because they'll help you keep the sling adjustments the way you like them. I hope you find what you're looking for, Ken.

From: Russell E. Taylor <DQBW77A@PRODIGY.COM>
Date: 19. Jan 96 1:51
Well, on the subject of Mr. Horiuchi, does anyone know where to procure a photo of this individual? I've been wanting to get one for quite some time, so that I might put up a few targets out at the range where I shoot. I'm willing to part with a few bucks to get one. If someone knows where I can get such a picture, please drop me a line via E-mail. Thanks.

From: PK <dont have one yet>
Date: 19. Jan 96 6:29
I am looking for info on Haskins 50 cal,Cryo treating barrels. For the people looking for good prices on ammo - have you tried Ivanhoes 508 667-5181 CDNN 800 588-9500 SOG 800 944-4867

From: Arthur Woodall <enaww@vm.cc.olemiss.edu>
Date: 19. Jan 96 10:58
Extremely interested in becoming an excellent shot, and would like to ask you about a rifle scope i saw in shot gun news....SHEPHERD SCOPE is this what I think it is...a real autoranging system.?????????????? I would as well like to request a catalog so I can order some things to aid me...I enjoy long range shooting with my .22cal rifle...it is a 44US A 22.cal HB ( 15/16"dia B) 3x9 scope...bench rest shooting only.

From: Dave
Date: 19. Jan 96 11:40
You can find lon Horiuchi's photo by going through Westpoint yearbooks if you know where to get those. He graduated from Westpoint, and served in the US Army in Korea. That's all I know.

From: Jay Williams <williamsjp@psns.navy.mil>
Date: 19. Jan 96 13:000
Arthur: The Shepherd scope is a ranging scope for deer hunting (although I suppose you could use it on whatever you want if you know the size of the target, I'm not sure how well this would work in practice, though). It has little bubbles (circles) of differing diameters. You take the circle that fits on the target (the target has to be a pre-defined size, i.e., the bubble are made to range a certain size target) and you're automatically holding at the right elevation. Of course you have to get the right scope for the caliber of your gun. Trijicon makes a really cool scope with a ranging reticle. It's called the ACOG (Advanced Combat Optical Gunsite). I've got one on my AR-15. It has varying widths of lines (same principle as the Shepherd). You just put the line on the target that fits accross it. It's made for targets of 18 inch width. You get the idea. The reticle is lit by a tritium lamp, too. It looks REALLY cool at night. It comes in a 4 power and a 3.5. The same thing can be done with a mil-dot sight, of course, but I suspect it wouldn't be as fast. There's a company that installs custom reticles on scopes, too. What would be cool would be to send a Leupold Mark IV to this company and have them put the ACOG reticle in there (it, too, would have to be specific to your caliber). The Leupold Mark IV is a bullet drop compensating scope. You've got to know how far away the target is. Then you just dial in the scope and put the crosshairs on the target (it's got different knobs that you install on the scope depending on what caliber your gun is. It's good out to 1000 meters.

From: Dave
Date: 19. Jan 96 15:22
See article log for impromptu post on mil-dot reticles. Snince the subject came up, I'll post it now instead of waiting for volume 2. Note: Sniper Country will be issuing volume 2 soon. All of the old stuff will still be available. It's just too hard to keep adding to the same material. I'll start adding new volumes every month (or so). I will finish the game!!! Another surprise is in the works too, but it'll be next week before I release the info. (for strategic reasons)

From: Deer Sniper Treestands <sniper@bham.mindspring.comla>
Date: 19. Jan 96 15:42
I manufacture a treestand for whitetail deer hunting that is also a usefull piece of gear for the sniper please call me at 1-800-SNIPE 11 Nam

From: Ken Peirce <kpeirce@usr.com>
Date: 19. Jan 96 15:43
Great page!

From: Russell E. Taylor <DQBW77A@PRODIGY.COM>
Date: 19. Jan 96 23:09
Dave: Thanks for the information on "Mr." Horiuchi. I was an instructor at the point for a short time, and still have a couple of contacts there. The yearbook picture shouldn't be too difficult for me to obtain. I was sad to learn from you, however, that he was a product of such a fine institution... normally known as a place where "honor" is paramount.

From: SFC Berg <bergf@csra.net>
Date: 20. Jan 96 9:07
Outstanding work, guys! I'm just a wannabe, but I've worked with just about every part of the Army, including snipers. I have a few comments about the 'Patrolling' editorial. I like the 'been and done' sound of it, and almost all of it is right on the money, but the part about the headquarters element is dated. There's no Army Security Agency anymore, but what you were talking about is attached lingusists. These now come from your divisional MI Battalion (Radio Bat, if you're a jarhead). The Army has more and is using its linguists on more sharp-end ops, especially in LIC. These guys are usually good soldiers (not like a few years ago), but they aren't combat arms, and you should have them train with you for a day or two before you go out. Also, RTO's don't encode their messages anymore; their radios do it for them. Even the National Guard should have COMSEC or SINGGARS by now. Thanks, and keep firing.

From: Dave
Date: 20. Jan 96 13:46
Ineteresting, the hardest part of being an RTO was rapidly coding first with a brevity list, then the CEOI. We did have KY38 message scramblers. How does the radio work? What model are they up to now? What kind of built-in cipher gear does the radio have. My guess is that the code changes automatically by day, or it could be burned in remotely. Tell us more about this new tech -- even though it doesn't have anything to do with shooting. I assumed they were still using PRC-77's because I haven't seen hardly any for sale in the surplus market, and those that I have seen were way over priced.

From: Ron Wright <westman@etv1.etv>
Date: 20. Jan 96 14:36
Great spot! Keep up the good work.

From: Michael J Murray <Murgee@iglou.com>
Date: 20. Jan 96 22:14
Good to see there is still A lot of pride in A job well done even if it is not pc

From: Janne Rasanen <jor@clinet.fi>
Date: 21. Jan 96 2:32
These are really great pages! Thank you Dave! Iwould like to read more about tracking as I am a novice paintball player. So if anyone would like to give me pointers or hints feel free. Anything online wouldbe appreciated. Ialso would like to know more about what sort of havoc snipers made during ww2. I understand that there were some great German and Russian snipers back then with high tallies. I would like to kow about high scorers from all around the world. So far the highest number of kills that I know of is around 400 by Sulo Kolkka of Finland he had half of those by sniping most of them durig solo attacks BEHIND enemy lines and another 200 or so kills with machine pistol in frontline battles. And all of these during Winter War which lasted 105 days! There was an interesting story of Sulo (I think that was his name) I read in a Finnish book about killing an expert Soviet sniper. Sulos company commander was afraid of his lines not holding if the Soviets made another assault because the company had lost almost every nco to this sniper so Sulo was sent to hunt this sniper down. The Soviet almost got Sulo when he was searching a spot from which to observe the enemy side and shoot the Russkie. So Sulo was pinned down and returned fire but missed because the range was about 500-600 meters and the rounds of the enemy were disturbing him. The Soviet had a riflescope and Sulo did not so the Soviet guy thought that he was safe to leave when he accomplished nothing or was too cocky and left for his own side walking and that is when Sulo caught him with his standard Finnish infantry rifle which still was an accurate (notoriously so) open sighted weapon. 

From: Shawn Chapman <chappy@netaccess.on.ca>
Date: 21. Jan 96 10:54
This is a cool site.

From: Jason Reddish <reddish@dmv.com>
Date: 21. Jan 96 17:07
I'm just looking for information about sniping because I have interest in Air Force Special Forces and I think I would probably like to be a sniper. Whenever I go deer hunting I try to pick a field site where my shot will be most likely 200 yards or more. 

From: Roger Pankey <progerp@bak2.lightspeed.net>
Date: 21. Jan 96 22:40
Great page, we need all the shooters on the net that we can get.

Roger.

From: Vivica Williams <williamv@gusun.georgetown.edu>
Date: 22. Jan 96 1:12
I have a serious desire to become a part of Force Recon or Navy SEALs (which ever is better). I am also an aspiring writer who stumbled upon this site while looking for reference material. I must say I am truly amazed at the knowledge I have acquired and am even more ready to get involved with the discipline of marksmanship.

From: PK
Date: 22. Jan 96 7:02
cryogenic processing - are you interested? watch THE NEXT STEP on the discovery channel JAN 24 & 27

From: Scott VanHoveln <vanhosj@mail.auburn.edu>
Date: 22. Jan 96 14:42
I like the game a lot! Please hurry to finish it. Thanks

From: Scott Pitchford <spitchfo@ada.smumn.edu>
Date: 23. Jan 96 4:46
Marine Sniper 89-93, stumbled on your site and found some cool info. Will defineately check it out again......3rd Bn. 3rd Marines. Semper Fi.

From: Dennis Aber <dpaber@i3net.com>
Date: 23. Jan 96 10:54
Really enjoy your page. Lots of good practical info!

From: Anonymous <hwilson@ix.netcom.com>
Date: 23. Jan 96 15:53
Is it a good idea to float the barrel on an AR15A2 I have a 20" H-barrel

From: Russell E. Taylor <DQBW77A@PRODIGY.COM>
Date: 24. Jan 96 3:19
To "Anonymous" (hwilson@ix.netcom.com: If you're happy with the way your rifle is shooting now, you may not want to "experiment." It's the old thing about "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." With the heavy barrel you've got, you should be getting good accuracy if the gun was made by a reputable manufacturer. Many competition shooters will opt for the special "sleeve" forearm assembly, not necessarily a cheap decision by the way, and they are happy with the results. If you've got the money to spend, and think you have "room for improvement" in your groups, go ahead and "float" the barrel. However, if you're getting good groups at the distances you are shooting ("good" being a subjective term here), you might want to leave well enough alone. You'll get "yes" and "no" answers to your question but, in the end, you're the one that must make the determination to float the barrel or not.

From: 2LT Jason A. Powell, CAP <jpowell@iac.net>
Date: 24. Jan 96 7:54
Outstanding site (SERE topics)! I hope that it continues to evolve and grow. I am the Deputy Commander for Cadets of a Civil Air Patrol (USAF Auxiliary) in Cincinnati, Ohio, and the info that I've learned from this site will be passed on to our cadets at our 1996 Winter Survival Bivouac, and other bivouacs to follow. Keep up the good work!

From: Jim Woodward <JamesW4397@aol.com>
Date: 24. Jan 96 21:13
Good Page!!!! 2/327th Inf, 101st ABN NO SLACK!!!

From: J. A. Lander <jalander@teleport.com>
Date: 24. Jan 96 23:28
This is a top-notch, A-number-one site. Currahee!

From: Ernst Phaff <E.C.Phaff@student.utwente.nl>
Date: 25. Jan 96 9:36
Nice Homepage,not just a load off hoky gung ho bull,but a nice objective look. I am very interested in these articles,and there aren't any sites that are better that this one Thank for the info!!! 

From: David L. Baker <dbaker@airmail.net>
Date: 25. Jan 96 18:29
Any info on electropolishing the barrel for improved accuracy? 

From: Mark A. Harrison <102250,2462@compuserve.com>
Date: 25. Jan 96 20:13
I just found this site on the net and really love it. Although not a trained "sniper" I am a die hard 1000 yard shooter and regularly compete with the Virginia 1000 yard club at the Quantico Marine Base. I have two custom built tacticle rifles. A .308 which I won the VA State 1000 yard championship in '94 and a new .300 Win Mag. I have met and spoken with Carlos Hathcock several times at the gun show here in Richmond and I concur with others comments. He is not doing well and it is a darn shame to see such a remarkable human being in that condition. I plan to read the comments of others and welcome any correspondence from other "extreme accuracy" shhoters. Mark

From: Mike <SJones@gate.net>
Date: 25. Jan 96 20:52
Just want to say I loved the site, ran into a hitch in the interactive game, but i'll be back. I own several Remington 700's, one is a .223 w/ a Douglas barrel that was fluted at a friend's machine shop. It was built specifically to weigh less than 9 1/2 lb. for NRA sporter rifle competition. My local club now has a covered outdoor 100yd. range and we will be having matches shortly. Anyone interested who wants to know how to adjust the factory trigger can e-mail me, it's really pretty simple as long as you use some common sense. "deepcryo" is the screenname for someone from 300 Below on AOL if you want to email them. I am considering the procedure myself for the .223, but I am still in the process of developing loads for it. a couple of notes for your building a rifle section: what you describe as a spacer on the 700 is actually the recoil lug. it is best finished on a surface grinder if you have access. do it before you install the barrel because if you were to have a barrel chambered and then do it, you'll alter the headspace. love bell and carlson synthetics, and use marine tex to bed the action with allox as the release agent and free float the barrel.

From: sniper VOGEL
Date: 25. Jan 96 21:33
Semper Fi or Die: From Maries, 506 infintry, MOTTO: Stands Alone

Sniper gulledge, obvisly a brillant human being Write me and we'll chat about sniping people.

From: fisher <fisher@radonc.unc.edu>
Date: 26. Jan 96 11:03
interesting! lots of helpful tips! BTW: Another good material for ghillie suit camo is the OD mosquito nettingfrom army surplus....its hard to move through thick brush (and every thorn around will hook ya) but it breaks up your outline like you wouldn't (or maybe you would) beleive!

From: Shootrr <ccd@africa.connectus.com>
Date: 26. Jan 96 14:38
Any "hogs" (90-92) out there? Did my time in 1/9 (usmc). Looks like a good spot here, lets keep it up. There is a sniper radar out (2 or 3)..believe it uses soundwaves re- corded from 2 positions to get a resection..easy to beat, not perfected ...yet. PRC 77 was still primary for comm when I got out..PRC104 when lucky. lucky....I will be back.

From: Anonymous
Date: 26. Jan 96 21:57
I am very impressed by this site. I have been looking for something like this for a long time. I am very interested in this subject but have only limited knowledge. I hope you maintain this site and keep up the good work!!

From: Mikle Diablos Witt <diablos@socketis.net>
Date: 27. Jan 96 3:41
Captain Mikle Witt of militant group US STAR FORCE(Special Tactics Assault Reconnaissance Force) says hoo-yaah to everyone.

From: D Wright <dwright@www.avicom.net>
Date: 28. Jan 96 18:25
Keep up the good work. Remember the second amendment.

From: P.D.Harrison <ulfh72a ulfh72a >
Date: 28. Jan 96 23:15
Luv it- long needed!

From: Russell E. Taylor <DQBW77A@PRODIGY.COM>
Date: 29. Jan 96 1:21
To Mark A. Harrison: The Compuserve address you listed was for a business that claimed you do not receive your E-mail there. Drop me an E-mail with your correct address.

From: 2LT H.J. Halterman
Date: 29. Jan 96 21:33
I see there's been some more interest in countersniper radar again, and ground surveillance radar in general. There's some interesting information available at:

http://popularmechanics/com/popmech/tech/U124K.html

and

http:csf.colorado.edu/dfax/mn/mn9405.htm#c-002

[an article from the old MILITARY NEWS, now MILITARY AND ARMS TRANSFER NEWS]

[MATF articles from 1994 and 1995 can be found at:

HTTP://csf.colorado.edu/dfax/matn/index.htm

Some of their tidbits, particularly on arms buildups and suppliers to the Serbians/Croatians/Moslem forces in Bosnia for the last 24 months is particularly interesting now!

As for the 12 JAN 1996 response from "anonymous" to Brent's 11 JAN 1996 question about ground surveillance radar, "Anon" stated that "this radar has a range out to about 500 meters...." This is NOT consistant with my admittedly limited and outdated experience with GS radar: the AN/PPS 4 radars of the early Vietnam war period had a useful operational range of about 80 to 8000 meters, the later AN/PPS 5 bettered that somewhat and was a lot more convienient to set haul around, set up, and operate. GS radars are really handy, IMHO, for those tasked with airfield defense, and in this role work WITH the sniper teams giving them an azimuth toward a possible target and then letting the sniper team do their own target observation and acquisition. This is a much more elegant solution than calling for an "arclight" [B52 airstrike] HJH

From: P.D. Harrison <ulfh72a@prodigy.com>
Date: 29. Jan 96 22:08
Dave, this is a great place to swap info. Mr. Lon H. needs a 168 where he is supposed to have a brain.

From: P.D.Harrison <ulfh72a@prodigy.com>
Date: 30. Jan 96 7:29
It is a shame about Carlos, I have talked with him several times at the Va. gun shows and you can see his decline.If only we could all pick his brain how muck could we learn. It seems that he has been discarded by the gov. as is the case many times, use you and forget you.When Carlos leaves us we will be losing a fine man and the best sniper of all time. PH USAF AIR POLICE (SWAT) 1970

From: anonymous
Date: 30. Jan 96 10:22
As an active duty shooter and a proud practitioner of our very unique profession, I find some of the information on this page a little troubling. To the regular citizen, we are a bunch of very dangerous hired killers. Case in point both subjects of the Hall of Shame. Many of the available books on the subject portray us a cunning,elusive and highly skilled stalkers of the ultimate game. Though many of these characteristics are true and define who and what we are we must exercise restraint and judgement in what we expose to the general populace. In other words some things are better left unsaid, exspecially in a public forum. OPSEC is paramount in order to protect our own.

From: Mark Richard <mrichard@code802.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>
Date: 30. Jan 96 10:47
I shoot sniper events for the National Guard for the state of Indiana and am twice a national champion in sniper shooting for the Army Matches. I would appreciate being put on any mailing list you might have either snail mail or e-mail for future articles or updates. Your home page is put together very well and is very informative. My snail mail address is Mark Richard , Unit 1 po box 663, Crane Indiana 47522

From: Dave
Date: 30. Jan 96 11:55
To: Anonymous
Please see article log for lengthy response.

From: Brent Wheat <sniper@in-motion.net>
Date: 31. Jan 96 22:17
Wonderful page! Perfect analysis of Mr. Horiuchi. I've attended the FBI school and they are trained under the same deadly force guidelines that every other law officer is subject to. At the risk of severe flaming: In my humble opinion and experience, most (most dammit, not ALL) FBI agents seem to have a high opinion of themselves and the agency and perhaps the temptation is to 'bend' the rules and explain later. Just a thought (NO Email from enraged FBI'ers!!!!!!)

From: Richard P. <illusion@bak2.lightspeed.net>
Date: 31. Jan 96 23:46
Currently a Long-Range Target Reduction Instructor at Global Security in Arvin CA. Also teach "H2H" and "Street & Prison Improvised Weapons". Any materials regarding such wuold be appreciated.

From: Ed <edboy@golden.net>
Date: 1. Feb 96 10:20
Dave This is a great site and I hope that it's around for a long time. I have a question for all you snipers that are military trained. Which would you prefer, a gillie suit or cammo with surrounding vegitation stuck in loops and button holes.Which do you think is more effective and versitile and offers the best concealment. 

From: 2LT H.J. Halterman
Date: 1. Feb 96 15:52
Those of you with an interest in countersniper radar who have QuickTime or MPEG viewers can observe a video demonstration of the LifeGuard countersniper detection system developed and promoted by the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories at the following URL:

http://www.llnl.gov/remoteTEST/01new.html

-HJH

From: SPACE GHOST
Date: 1. Feb 96 16:01
THER HE SAT ON THE BENCH NEXT TO HIM SAT HIS WENCH
I ON THE TOWER
HAD ALL THE POWER
I REMOVED MY RIFLE
LIKE A COLD-HEARTED DISIPLE
AT THE STRIKE OF THE HOUR
I UNLEASHED MY POWER
ONE SHOT, ONE KILL
I HAD ALL THE WILL
HIS HEAD WENT BACK
HIS NAME I NOT KNOW
MAYBE BUDDY, JAKE, OR JACK
HIS WENCH JUMPED UP
AND DROPPED HER BIRDSEED CUP
I CLIMBED DOWN FROM MY POST
NO LONGER WILL THE MAFIA BOAST
FOR THIS MAN KILLED MY DAD
THIS IS WHAT MADE ME MAD
I PICTURE IN MY HEAD
OF THIS MAN BEING DEAD
I HAVE SLIGHT REMORSE, OF COURSE
FOR NOW I'M AN ASSASSIN
THIS HAS BECOME MY PASSION

TRUE [bleeping] STORY, MOTHER[bleep].
bleeps added by Dave, *please* don't use the "f" word. :)

From: KEN PINTAR <KENP@MAGICNET.NET>
Date: 1. Feb 96 20:11
JUST FOUND YOU ON THE NET. I AM THE SHOOTING COACH AT OVIEDO HIGH SCHOOL AND WAS HOPING TO FIND SOME SHOOTING TIPS. I GUESS A COUPLE NAVY SEALS SHOULD HAVE A FEW TIPS. WE SHOOT .177 AIR RIFLES AT TEN METERS. THE CADETS ARE FRESHMEN THROUGH SENIORS. LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR ARTICLES. I AM A RETIRED NAVY MAN MYSELF.

From: Anonymous
Date: 2. Feb 96 1:28
Mr. Ghost: In your deeply moving and profoundly inspiring prose, you seemed to overlook the fact that youngsters and an occasional female browse through this page. Your graphic rendition, truly on a level of excellence shared only by the likes of Sandburg, Frost, Whitman and only a few others of the literary elite, was enlightening and utterly charming. However, I think you might have found a kinder, gentler approach to the way you signed your entry.

From: Johan Hedberg <hedberg@dalnet.se>
Date: 2. Feb 96 9:27
Hallo . I have a Carlgustav Mauser m-96 ( 6,5mm ), and im wery intrested of long range shooting. So my question is: Is there anything i can do with it to make it better, and more acurate. I use a 2-7x32 scope and a bipod. Please ansver to: hedberg@dalnet.se 

From: SPACE GHOST
Date: 2. Feb 96 15:30
THANK YOU MR. ANONYMOUS. I KNOW SOMETIMES MY WORK GETS A LITTLE GRAPHIC SOMETIMES, BUT I FEEL THAT WHEN I USE BAD LANGUAGE I EXPRESS MYSELF TO THE MAX. I JUST WISH OUTHERS FELT THE SAME. I'M EXTREMLY SORRY ABOUT THE LANGUANG.

From: SPACE GHOST
Date: 2. Feb 96 15:31
THANK YOU MR. ANONYMOUS. I KNOW SOMETIMES MY WORK GETS A LITTLE GRAPHIC, SOMETIMES, BUT I FEEL THAT WHEN I USE BAD LANGUAGE I EXPRESS MYSELF TO THE MAX. I JUST WISH OUTHERS FELT THE SAME. I'M EXTREMLY SORRY ABOUT THE LANGUANG.

From: Jon Vogeka
Date: 2. Feb 96 15:32
I'm an English teacher at a high school in Ohio. I had a young student come to me and explain that there was some pretty good poetry on this site. So I commend you on this. I would like to see more poems though,so that my class could study the diffrent styles used. Mr.Space Ghost nice work. fuck (for S.G. free right to say whatever he wants)

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