Sniper Country Duty Roster collective wisdom
Scopes - Unertl:
I see alot of feedback regarding the B&L and the Leoupold tactical
scopes - are the Unertl scopes still in the running these days?
I've seen the Unertl's in several applications - but have never used
one - How do they stack up? anyone have any experience with them?
Thanks in advance,
NoVa Shooter <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Nokesville, Va USA - Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 00:31:30 (EST)
On the Unertl sniper scope. You're not going to find too many floating
around out there for civilian purchase. You might run up on one at a gun
show but I don't believe they make them anymore. Besides they were state
of the art in 1981 but the newer scopes have eclipsed them long ago. This
is coming from former Marine sniper who used and taught the thing from
its inception. I wuold love to have one to hold and caress at night while
I sip Guinness, watch "Gung Ho" on the tube and think about the old days
but not to shoot with in place of a Leupold M3 whick is state of the art
USA - Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 10:53:45 (EST)
I've heard of occasional USMC Unertl 10x scopes at gun shows, but
the sellers were always asking a few thousand for one, and most likely,
it would be stolen government property. I believe Unertl only sold the
scope to USMC and FBI. I've also heard there are only about 5 or 6 in civilian
hands, they are all serial-numbered, and Col. Chandler knows where they
all are. Rick, Gooch, etc., any comments?
Bach Melick <email@example.com>
New Orleans, LA USA - Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 11:34:03 (EST)
your right on a few points about the unertls out there....yup, they
are in the thousands of dollars ( i know cuz i sold mine (ser#2060) for
quite a bit). all at the gun shows are not stolen, if you look on the left
side, it will say either sniper (which are not stolen and only 31 exist
as of right now) and the other is USMC ( which is a dead give away for
being stolen from the Corp). and i can vouch for gooch fondling my unertl
for hours from where he wore the camo paint of it. its funny to watch him
get that teary eyed look when ever he held it.
USA - Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 15:45:01 (EST)
Re: Unertl, John
In the early to mid 1980s John (jr.) and Elsie would set up at Camp
Perry with Champion Shooters Supply. Each year I would ask him when he
was going to produce a civilian sniper model. He always declined siting
the prices involved. I let him know they would sell regardless of price,
but apparently wasn't convincing enough. From what Elsie told me, rifle
scopes are only a very small part of their business and that the core of
their business was surveying equipment, aircraft simulators, etc. Don't
quote me on any of this, as it was long ago and things may have changed.
Ron N. <firstname.lastname@example.org>
"buckeyes are worthless nuts" USA - Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 21:37:48
This probably qualifies as the dumb question of the day, but, gotta
ask. Why is the Unertl 10X USMC scope unable to be purchased?? At least
I have found it impossible. If anyone knows a source, or a how to, I am
USA - Wednesday, February 03, 1999 at 00:16:35 (ZULU)
OldDog: No, not the dumb question of the day. I've often wandered
about that. If they're that good - then put those bad-boys out on the market
and let us fight over them. I have to believe that there are other modern
optical systems that may be as good as or better than the unertl's
Nokesville, Va, USA - Wednesday, February 03, 1999 at 00:41:22 (ZULU)
Old Dog, and Ken,
The Unertl is an excellent scope as far as durability, and ease
of use. The Optical clarity could be better though. Leupold scopes are
much better quality but could never hold up to the abuse that the Unertl
does. From what i have heard (just scuttlebutt mind you). The Unertl is
not available to the general public because of supply problems. The last
i heard they were having trouble keeping up with their government contract.
The Marine Corps is currently looking for a Day/Night scope to replace
the Unertl. The bottom line is, if you are planning on using your rifle
as a club, or dropping it out of a 5-ton truck, then the Unertl is the
scope for you. If not, then don't worry about it.
Keep It Real
Camp Lejeune, NC, USA - Wednesday, February 03, 1999 at 02:37:31 (ZULU)
As to Unertal (bad spelling) scopes, they won't sell even to L.E.
with letter head. Why they only know.
Mike M. <DMMDNLN@AOL.COM>
Calif, USA - Wednesday, February 03, 1999 at 16:36:34 (ZULU)
Talked to an old 2112 buddy and he says that Unertl is going to
build some 30 more scopes for the USMC. He also told me that Unertl does
not depend on the sales of these scopes too much for funds as they do big
buisness with NASA. SOmething about designing the Hubble Telescope.
John from Camp Lejuene. Trained and taught with both the USMC Unertl
and the Leupold M3A and I can tell you that given an option for a mission
I would take the M3A. Little stuff like quick adjust parallax, scope shade,
finish, superior lens coatings, and a laser filter make a big difference.
USA - Thursday, February 04, 1999 at 15:10:55 (ZULU)
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