Sniper Country Duty Roster collective wisdom


Bipods:


To Grenadier: I've got the same bipod, two of them in fact, for a couple of my Savages.
There's nothing wrong with your scope, either, and I think you've got a pretty sound rig. If
you're dead set on an aftermarket stock, McMillan can outfit you with their A-2 Tactical
-- but you may want to wait until Sarge finishes his review of the stock he's getting from
the company in Florida. It sounds like it might be a very worthwhile product.


To Grenadier: You're not a pest. If you have the same PH-type bipods I own, they're
heavy enough. I bought the M-85 model from Model 1 (they are listed in Shotgun News).
Actually, I bought two, and I'm in the market for a third. The Chinese have better
metallurgical processes than what they're given credit for. Their PolyTech (rifle) receivers
got a bad reputation for softness, but to my knowledge their Norinco .45s do pretty well.
For a bipod, though, I don't think you'll have any problems, if you've got the same model I
have. As for the installation you mentioned, Scott Powers can probably address that issue.
You might want to look at his Versa-Pod review.

Russell E. Taylor <DQBW77A@prodigy.com>
Silvis, IL USA - Friday, September 18, 1998 at 01:32:25 (EDT)



3. Best bipod for field use? Have only read evaluations of Versa Pod.

Bolt <mbolt34547@aol.com>
USA - Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 20:27:18 (EST) 


Rookie: the Versa Pod is a Chinese copy of the much more expensive British Parker Hale bipod. I have a similar copy called a Gibbs M85 (made in Argentia?). This pattern of bipod is the competition for American-made Harris bipods.

Everyone has their favourites. (I prefer the all-axis pointability of the PH to the one-spot only Harris.)

Terry
Terry Warner <twarner@sk.sympatico.ca>
minus 21 C, and expecting a New Year's Eve blizzard, Canada - Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 16:20:20 (EST) 


"3. Best bipod for field use?"
Harris. BR-S or standard length. Some like the swivel model, some don't. Some recommend against swiveling pods. I'd say it is personal preference. A too short a bipod will become a hassle. I have a BR-S and wish now that I had gotten the standard length. Heck, using your ruck or buttback is probably better and cost a lot less anyway! Bipods are not necessary, but nice to have.
Scott <xring>
USA - Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 16:25:15 (EST) 
"To swivel or not to swivel, that is the question!" Which one of the Harris bi-pods is the best way to go?
Doc <docs@fidnet.com>
The Ozark boonies, MO, USA - Sunday, January 31, 1999 at 03:08:40 (ZULU) 
Bi-pod question: I have both the swivel and non. I think it is a personal taste thing, really. I prefer the swivel-pod, but that does not mean it will work best for you.

Old Dog
Bruce <Bruce@mannlawfirm.com>
USA - Sunday, January 31, 1999 at 17:31:12 (ZULU) 


Doc; Since nobody else wants a piece of that. I've got both kinds of
bipods in Harris. That swivel thing would have to get my vote but I ain't crazy about the way it kind of swings around when you tote the gun. Somebody posted... believe it was Goochman said he uses the standard and says it just takes a bit longer to adjust. I think it's a little quicker to stabilize but the gun may wind up tilted if you have to eat dirt and then shoot. They'll get me for this one but the swivel works better if you have to follow a running target cause it's a little looser. Yeah I do shoot movin stuff from a bipod on occasion but it's not planned it just happens.
As many xl and xxl sizes on these t shirts as there are I may not be as out of place here as I thought. If it was Torsten I'd know he wanted to wrap his babes (two or three at a time) in em for nite nite time. But....Mine may be a little tight on me.
B.Rogers <brogers@elkhart.com>
USA - Sunday, January 31, 1999 at 21:52:44 (ZULU) 
Doc,
The standard model Harris Bipod BR1A2 gets my vote "Low n' Mean", anything else I like the tripod set up.

peteR
peteR <PNGREIFF@AOL.COM>
BIG CITY, BY-GAWD, USA - Monday, February 01, 1999 at 01:45:28 (ZULU) 


Hey guys, I am wondering if anyone could tell me if you can group as well from a bipod as you can from a rest, sandbags etc. I would be shooting primarily from a sitting position (bench). Thanks!!!
James Castagno <joe.largy@wang.com>
USA - Monday, February 01, 1999 at 21:08:03 (ZULU) 
James,
You should be able to shoot as well off of bipods as you can a rest. The important thing is to have a good rear bag or rest of some type to support the rear of the rifle and try to position yourself the same each time you shoot.
Pat <mrbullet@hotmail.com>
USA - Monday, February 01, 1999 at 22:29:20 (ZULU) 
Some bipods don't work good as others on that group thing. Harris is usually pretty good. But if you have a barrel mounted one it will hop all over the place. (trusting that nobody here probably does have).I had a B.Square that was bad about that on calibers over .223. Some times the elevation will change if it's off a car hood or a certain kind of table but most shooting off the ground are fairly close to regular impact or at least that's the way I've found em.
B.Rogers <brogers@elkhart.com>
USA - Tuesday, February 02, 1999 at 06:11:40 (ZULU) 

 
 
 

To the gang'

I looking at a Parker-Hale Bipod (getting tired of dragging the 40lb sandbag around) and I sww that they make an aluminum or a steel Bi-pod. I know the steel will be rock solid, but my rifle is a pig as is is, has any one used or seen the aluminum version of the Parker-Hale? Is it as beefy and reliable as the steel model?

Kush <smak@pce.net>
Buffalo , ny, USA - Friday, August 04, 2000 at 17:46:18 (ZULU) (your host address: 12.28.201.104)


Looking for any input as to preferances between bipods. Harris Swivel or non Swivel. Is the parker hale that much better? Does Parker Hale swivel? Thanx. B<:>B
Brack <brackett@massed.net>
USA - Saturday, August 05, 2000 at 22:59:34 (ZULU) (your host address: 209.6.67.140)
Brack - swivle vs non-swivel:

During my visit to Storm Mountain last year - I used a harris non-swivel bipod. I found out rather quickly that I fidgeted with the legs alot. Storm is a good training area - and there isn't a perfectly flat place anywhere in that facility. It was suggested to me to put my ammo pouch or book under the leg that needed extending or something along the line of a 'quick' adjustment. That still didn't cut it for me. I don't have the field time that alot of these 'more saltier' dudes on here have - but that was my experience.

Im gonna try the swivel this year... My partner had a swivel bipod - and seemed to be fighting with adjusting the legs on his bipod a WHOLE lot less than me. Just have to make sure you're level when you're gonna shoot. Sometimes the lay of the land or the shape of the target might fool you into canting your rifle on a swivel bipod when you shouldn't.

Ken <Ken@Hunters.org>
Nokesville, Va, USA - Saturday, August 05, 2000 at 23:44:39 (ZULU) (your host address: 207.233.164.10)


Brack: I think the consensus was that the bipod I had was an easier set up. It's a Harris S-BRM, the swivelling notched leg one. The legs eject out when you pust the button, and snap into notches so you don't have to tighten anything down. The swivel is adjustable for tension, and I found it to be worth it's weight. Before I do too much more though, I'm gonna get the medium height one too, for quick change for matching terain areas. That being said, the non-notch leg one has more swing than mine, the ONLY draw back in my opinion.

Bravo <Bravo762@yahoo.com>
the banana republic formerly known as the, USA - Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 00:09:00 (ZULU) (your host address: 209.180.85.218)


As far as to swivel or not to swivel, I vote for not. I used to have one and it moved to much and you can't really lock it down too good. I use the LM version that has notched legs and springs out which is better than the ones that spring in and you have to turn the knob to keep it from going down. You can adjust the notched legs pretty good to compensate for uneven ground. Check them out before you get the swivel.
Rob <firestud42@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 00:24:00 (ZULU) (your host address: 152.163.201.83)
Rob...

The swivel bi-pod has a friction adjustment on it, and you can set it really firm, even tight enuff so the gun will stay upright on the ground... it's the big knurled nut. Mine took pliers to tighten, but it's great now... won't flop, and won't move, unless I make it move, then it holds the adjustment.
When I set it down, and set it for the bubble, it stays there for the shot, even if I let loose on the gun for some reason.

'lito
Pablito <condor@mags.net>
USA - Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 00:33:46 (ZULU) (your host address: 24.188.89.243)


Lito, Mine had that to but didn't tighten good enough unless like you said I cranked down on it with pliers and then it sometimes shot loose. Personally I don't want something on there that needs pliers to change it. I like to keep all my gear as KISS as possible. The LM model adjsuts just fine for any slope I've come across yet. I guess it's jus a personal feel.

Rob <firestud42@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 01:04:33 (ZULU) (your host address: 152.163.201.84)


Harris swivel bipod is the way to go. Just be sure to crank on the tension screw that controls the tilt so you dont get flop.

Gooch <kentgooch@hotmail.com>
USA - Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 01:04:46 (ZULU) (your host address: 129.71.17.139)


As per usual, Kent is right on the swivel thing. Mine came loose about 250 rounds after purchasing it, so I tightened it up per Mike's instructions (well, he told me how to do it RIGHT after laughing at the way I did it), and it's held since then, another 400 or so rounds, still fine. If I only have to mess with it every few months, who cares?

Brew Master Bravo <Bravo762@yahoo.com>
the wild, wild, wacky, USA - Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 03:52:51 (ZULU) (your host address: 209.180.85.253)


Bipod, the choice is the Harris tilt o matic with notched leg adjustments. Yes, a pair of pliers will tighten that sucker up and you only have to do it one time. They will not shoot lose and you can tilt them where you need them, they then stay there. The Parker Hale will flop and cause a lose shot and problems at times. Besides they cost too blasted much.

Rick
Rick <rbowcher@aol.com>
Fayetteville, NC, USA - Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 04:09:45 (ZULU) (your host address: 152.163.206.203)


The "debate" on swivel vs. non-swivel bipods could not be more timely. I,to have gone from non-swivel to swivel and back and forth mainly because of the inability to truely "lock down" the swivel once you have it where you need it. I've recently recieved an item called the "Pod-Loc" from Terry Cross at KMW Long Range Solutions, that replaces the knurled knob on the Harris bipods with a small lever that REALLY locks the swivel in place. I'm evaluating it now and hope to have a full write up within a week to ten days. Keep watching the In Review section. Just let me say THIS THING WORKS!!!!

Sarge <garryrn@dfn.com>
Area 51, NM, USA - Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 06:42:12 (ZULU) (your host address: 206.245.243.60)


On bipods.... s' been a while since I posted here, if I had any credibility built up before I suppose it may have by now expired... but my $.02 on bipods is, there is no bipod that LOOKS more exotic and fit for duty than the Parker Hale, but they are just to heavy and floppy to be practical. I went to a good deal of trouble on one to flute it and skeletonize it; was rewarded with about 1/2 pound of chips on the floor, not enough to matter. It LOOKs even cooler though. The Harris, Plebian though it may be, wins. Their weakest point seems to be the sheet metal strap that is formed into a split nut, giving the female thread used to tension it to the swivel stud, and the two-bit, 10-24 Allen screw wanna-be that they provide. Always been a peeve of mine, when somebody makes an otherwise good product and then saves themself $.03 on the production cost by using cheesy fasteners.

Don't forget that the Versa-Pods (the PH knockoff) are made in China and as such should be beneath the notice of anyone who thinks it's wrong to imprison people for their political or religious beliefs, and to use them as cheap/slave labor.

Ned
Ned <michigun@hotmail.com>
3R, MI, USA - Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 16:14:58 (ZULU) (your host address: 207.89.137.4)


Kush,

parker Hale Bipods:

I have both, the steel on the mc millan m 88 .50 were I had a gunwriter break my frist aluminum one. Wasnt the Bipod´s fault, just the shooter was a whimp and pulled back on the bipod letting it take all the recoil.

I have several of the aluminum ones and two steel, nope I am not rich, just good friends with Roger Hale. The chinese copy is about as good too.

Just get a few of the of the spigots to attach to your diffrent rifles than your are good to go with one bipod.

When shooting of the ph bipod best put in in neutral, with no pressure forwards or back on the bipod. Let it sit at the upper point of the radius and recoil naturally.

Torsten Erning <7.62@lasercon.de>
Germany - Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 16:36:28 (ZULU) (your host address: 62.156.8.152)


Again on the bipods - Torsten you are absolutely right on the neutral position of the bipod. Push forward or pull back and you will throw the round when the bipod jumps from tension to neutral. Usually high and not always the same height. thank you for reminding us of that fact. We still need to get together for a beer and some good stories T.

Rick <rbowcher@aol.com>
Fayetteville, NC, USA - Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 20:40:11 (ZULU) (your host address: 152.163.206.182)


Kush,

Parker Hale Bipod:

I have an Aluminum one on my 15lbs. Mauser 86 SR and it works fine and has no signs of wear other than the bottom of the skids. The one I had broken on the fifty split right between the spigot hole and the socket for the leg joint. And like I wrote it was not the bipods fault.

In the beginning I went with the adjustable handstop in a rail, but changed to a spigot that I glassed into the forend of the stock. A lot lower,and less prone to getting caught on things. The spigots can be made by anyone with a lathe, so you can put one in each of your rifles. When glassing these in be sure and make some deep scrapes and dremel cuts into the back inch or so to give the epoxy something to hold on to. I welded some little dropplets on mine before glassing it in and it holds rock solid.

I like the PH because it is truely QD. Which was good when shooting the SMTC stress course with the window slit, or in a tight rosebush were the bipod would get caught. Also it does not have monster "Air rifle" springs that collect all sorts of stuff on a stalk and let the bipod have a life of its own. The PH tilts in any way you need it without spring tension to fight.

And most important it is of KISS design.

Torsten <7.62@lasercon.de>
Germany - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 07:22:31 (ZULU) (your host address: 62.224.19.188)


Kush
for what its worth I'd go for the Harris in a heartbeat. I've seen and used the Parker Hale/versapod and they wobble about like a....
well, like a very wobbly thing, I hated it. Get the knotched spring out legs, I didn't and wish I had. But the swivel type is a must.

Mark D
Mark Dougan <dougie@mill.co.uk>
London, UK - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 12:45:27 (ZULU) (your host address: 212.113.7.83)


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