Selecting a .308 Semi-auto:
308 semi's in perspective, or, an effort in futility?
Looks like the STG/L1A1 and the M1A are in the lead. The prices for a quality STG are in the same range as the M1A but the mags are cheaper. The M1A has better iron sights. The STG has less moving parts and gas adjustment. What's a mother to do? Before I take a dive, please indulge a couple more questions:
If I get the M1A loaded package, is the night vision scope offered with the loaded deal any good? Definitely not interested in the Springfield scope or mount unless I get the NV.
If I get the L1A1, what other accessories/parts do I need to figure on purchasing, other than mags of course?
I really don't care to scope this weapon unless I go with NV on the M1A1. Have enough invested in scoped bolt guns now. This will be just a field rifle to compliment the PSS.
Bolt now lets this ordeal rest, know you're glad of that!
Bolt Out!
Bolt <reeldoctor@mindspring.com>
USA - Tuesday, August 01, 2000 at 02:15:01 (ZULU) (your host address:
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On FAL must-have spares, there realy isnt too much outside of mags that you need. The one special tool I would recomend would be the one needed to pull the extractor, which in the FAL scheme of things would appear to be an armorer rather than end-user task. There are several good, sturdy and fairly cheap scope mounts available for the FAL, an impossible combination to find for the M14. You might want one for group testing and ammo selection, if nothing else.
Tom Simpson <bullet@sc.rr.com>
Colatown, SC, USA - Tuesday, August 01, 2000 at 03:10:55 (ZULU) (your
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Bolt <reeldoctor@mindspring.com>
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If I remember correctly, feeding and jam's were the issue.
You would be wise indeedy, if you get some feedback from a FEW people who have run these dude's.
Are there any Brit's,that post here?.
That would have the working knowledge of these units.
Again, no concrete article I can put a finger on, but do remember a problem area w/ them.( maybe rectified, don't know).
for what it's worth......Two Shoes
Two Shoes <tls8323@cs.com>
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Oh, two additional FAL gizzies that I thought I might mention as worth having: an Israeli cocking handle (it's larger and gives you a forward bolt assist) and a Commonwealth-pattern top cover with open front and integral stripper clip guide. The latter requires two slight mill cuts to the standard metric receiver to fit but otherwise slides right on.
Bolt, when you say that you want a "L1A1", just what do you mean? If you mean that literaly, the be advised that many L1A1 and C1A1 parts sets on the US market are in relativly poor condition compaired to the StG-58 parts sets. As for the Indian parts that somoetimes pop up, dont bother. There are actualy fout different specs for FAL parts out ther in the world: Inch, Metric, Israeli (mostly compatible with Metric but with a few excpetions) and Indian. These last were made without licence from FN from a handful of backwards-engineered rifles and are their own little world dimentionaly.
Personaly, I would focus on getting a known-good basic rifle first (IMBEL and StG-58, hold the pickle, hold the mayo) and *then* we can talk about how to set it up *just* for you. :)
Tom Simpson <bullet@sc.rr.com>
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PeteR: If I could FIND a BM-59, and AFFORD the mags, it'd be quite the rifle! I've had the pleasure of playing with one for an hour or so (my ammo), but I had to leave it with it's owner. You jest, but if I thought I could get away with it for real, I'd take a rack grade M1A or FAL out there. You get the idea I love John Garand and his many decendants?
All right, I'll "go with the flow" and do the CAR type. Just don't think that this makes me a victim of peer pressure! After all, I was told M1A's won't do what mine does either ;-) And as a SUPER wise man on the M-14's said very recently, it's surprizing how many times you hear someone calling for a AR armorer at the national matches, and it's also surprizing how many times you DON'T hear someone calling for a M-14 armorer.
Mike: I was told that it was the PT superstars that ordered and had
delivered via APO something like a dozen of them. Will I stand up and say
that? Well, I'll stand up and say that was what I was told..... Oh, and
what's the best weight and material for slingshot pellets? JOKE!!
Don't let those guys talk you out of your guinsu knife material
this time.
Bravo <Bravo762@yahoo.com>
the state next door to where handgunners will have to be fingerprinted,
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I mounted a scope on mine and shoot MOA at 100yds easily with federal ammo. I believe the rifle (Century FA91) is capable of shooting close to MOA at 300yds. The scope that is on it is not the best. I am planning to upgrade, however my Rem 700 shoots better and better for every dollar I spend on it....
So in my opinion for less that $1000 i got exactly what I was looking for. Which included rifle, scope, rings and a case. I haven't had any problems with it yet.
bryan
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