Is it even possible a M70 was assembled and marked "Columbia, S.C." prior to the March 2006 closing of the New Haven production facility?

I thought all final assembly was done in CT per union contract/agreement, and marked as such.

I am definately not talking about the new/upcoming FN M70.

Les          
CT, USA - Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 00:41:00 (ZULU)

Joe: Congratulations to your son. The days of blood wings are long past. That said, when he is out of formation, pound the wings into his chest the first chance you get.  It does not seem possible that jump school was 25 years ago.

Georgia:  Russia is flexing it's muscle and it is a huge mistake to let it go unnoticed and unchecked.  The US needs to seriously consider arming the former Soviet states to discourge further incursions. At some point, an intervention in Georgia is not out of the question.

Pat II          
Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 01:50:50 (ZULU)

WR:  Gotta wait til i get the new turbine blades into the garret (and the bigger intercooler) before I add the meter.  But I will take notes on efficient gear/ RPM ranges.  The install is a PITA to the max, so I skipped it for now (needed the truck for the trip:))

joe m          
Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 02:04:51 (ZULU)

JoeM:  I have the Banks OttoMind tuner for the Cummins. I have not installed it yet - however lots of reading and talking with others say the Banks system - even tho pricey - will keep you from ruining a 10+ thousand dollar engine (powerstroke, cummins, etc) - and a auto-trans as well. With a tuner - these modern day turbo diesels will twist the world in half.

You might find that your best mileage does not happen at the "mileage" or "economy" setting on your tuner. Each person, truck, etc is different.

From what I can tell by reading, talking with others - your powerstroke oughta have a bit broader range of rpm/speed that gets the sweet mileage. My Farrier has a 2002/03 (I think) F250 w/powerstroke and the Banks system. He says that's the best thing since sliced bread for his truck.

take care out there,

Ken

Ken Hunter          
Nokesville, Va, Keep America - God Fearing, Armed and Free!!!.. - Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 14:13:35 (ZULU)

http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/Video/?action=view&current=taurus_boom_2.flv

Or click......

Geoff M          
WI, USA - Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 17:34:38 (ZULU)

I wish the stylists didn't get as much influence over (light) truck design as they do.  The bigger stuff is made to be worked on-or at least it used to be.  The smaller stuff seems to be engaged in a contest to see who can cram the biggest engine in the sleekest package.  

WR Moore          
Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 21:07:14 (ZULU)

Now this pertains to more of the "real" truck stuff and is targeted at Cummins especially, but it's worth reading if you've got time on your hands.  It shouldn't take long, I got through it in about 20 minutes and I keep going back to expand on certain aspects all the time.      

http://www.dieselinjection.net/BRUCE/articles.html  

BTW, automatic transmissions suck, except for the big Allisons and even those are for girls only ;)

BTW, Joe M, I'm looking at a schedule change in the near future that might free up an occasional weekend, if you want/need some wrench help, I'll be glad to come north and bring my tools.

S/F.....Ken M

Ken M          
Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 22:00:53 (ZULU)

I found the boost gauge to be very educational. Real helpful on sucking the best fuel consumption on the big truck.  Wish I had one on the pickup, but couldn't figure out how to install the thing.

IIRC, I got the pickup gauges from Campers World.  Got the EGT for the big truck there too.  The boost gauge was from Summit Racing.

WR Moore          
Wednesday, August 20, 2008, at 23:07:01 (ZULU)

We just bought a 08 F450, got the V10 gasser.  In contrast with the Ford V10 gas motor, which is great, the new diesels are for s**t.  It's going to be nothing but glider kits from now on, for me anyways.  The new 6.7 Cummins seems to be OK, but I can't help but imagine how much better it would be without that 07 emissions crap hanging on it.  Everytime the one we have has been back to Pete, it's been for that emissions crap.  As for the big trucks, the ones targeted at the O/O market seem to be OK, the fleet trucks (FL's except the Classic, Volvos, KW 2000's,etc) are all shiite.  Yeah, most of the individual parts are OK, but in combination: junk.  IE FL Columbia with Steertek front axle and Detroit series 60 motor = monumental POS.  S/F....Ken M        

Ken M          
Thursday, August 21, 2008, at 00:16:30 (ZULU)

Lindy          
Creede, Colorado, U.S.A. - Thursday, August 21, 2008, at 00:22:35 (ZULU)

FWIW, I just moved to the Morongo Basin area of California about 400 miles from the East Bay.  For those Rosterfarians unfamiliar with the area, it's really, really hot here. People go to the Mojave for cooler weather.

I have a 2001 F150 with a 4.5L V8 gasoline engine(approx 289 cid for some of us) with towing package, manual tranny, K&N filtercharger system,  headers n catback, some suspension upgrades and a camper shell.  I have a Hypertech engine performance program on the engine.  On the move, I was towing a trailer with about 1 ton of stuff, including my motorcycle.  

I set my rpm's at 2400 and cruised.  Got about 15 mpg for the 400 mile trip.  The engine was working, but not too hard.  Speed would creep up into the high 70's if I wasn't careful.  Unloaded, at 2400 rpm, speed is about 72mph for 17 mpg.  On the steepest grade, 7% for about 6 miles, flat out in third gear, I was going 37 mph at about 3800 rpm.  Not enough data for fuel consumption on that grade, but it was a concern for a few minutes.

Temperature ranged from 57*F when I left the East Bay to 107*F crossing the desert.

My wife followed me in her Camry and got 505 miles on one tank of gas, about 26 mpg.  At 80, the Camry gets about 20 mpg.

I had maintenance on the truck just before I left.  A coil had gone bad and had to be replaced.  Has anyone tried the grease pencil trick to find a sick cylinder?

It was a cool 97*F when I left work today...107*F at the house.

Trajan Aurelius          
SoCal, Left Coast, USA!! - Thursday, August 21, 2008, at 03:34:34 (ZULU)

Whatta ya reckon the B.C. was on that barrel?

Lindy,

Pretty good article and a good "Reader's Digest" analysis. Thanks for the link.

jc

jc          
Cordova, TN, United States - Thursday, August 21, 2008, at 06:49:02 (ZULU)

They are talkin a whole new ballgame for 2010 on the big ones.

As far as workin on them...depends on what it is.Twin turbo Cat in a 387 is no fun.Mercedes in a Freightliner will have you inventing new swear words.And the only thing that didnt leave me feelin bloody,bruised and like I had my ass kicked in a bar fight,in a Volvo... was driving one.Even changin the oil in a Volvo draws blood.Rather do Mack 'camelback' springs then a clutch in a Volvo that has an ISX under the hood.Far as that goes...I' ll do camelbacks for life if it will keep me from openin the hood of a Volvo or a 13 letter Shitspreader(International) ever again.

Joe,Your fuel mileage sounds pretty decent,to me.Know some guys w/gas motors that would love to get what your gettin.But then again too all I see are the big ones where 7.5mpg is "Good".

UnPat

UnPat          
Wi, USA - Thursday, August 21, 2008, at 09:21:00 (ZULU)

I finely have a state agency investigation those bastards.

It is now an official criminal investigation by the Attorney Generals Office.

They said the first stage will take 4 or so months.

ow I can do something else with my time - like sue my first lawyer.

-

'lito

CatShooter          
Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Thursday, August 21, 2008, at 17:52:46 (ZULU)

Go git 'em Kittywacker!!

Doc Mac          
The Cradle of Naval Aivation, FL, USA - Friday, August 22, 2008, at 02:07:00 (ZULU)

Just picked up a little CZ 452 ina 22 mag for $175. Anybody played with one? Any "improvements" one could do such as trigger?

Optics- something in a 2-7 flavor or would you pimp it with a red dot kinda thing. This critter is like new and shot very little, so if you have any suggestions (with this crowd ??)...

Okay, pour something flamable and ignite...

Scott F.          
Hillbillyland, - Friday, August 22, 2008, at 04:05:44 (ZULU)

That is a very nice rifle.

CDC'          
Friday, August 22, 2008, at 04:17:44 (ZULU)

I think CZ makes one nice rifle for the money and it sounds like you stole the one you bought.  Good for you.  I also just picked up a Sako quad for my primary 22LR.... I like this rifle a whole lot.

medicjim          
Friday, August 22, 2008, at 13:16:24 (ZULU)

I'm planning on purchasing a .22LR chambered bolt long gun.  Had narrowed down my choices to the synthetic stock Savage with heavy barrel or the CZ452 Silhouette (also synthetic stocked).

Have decided on the CZ, starting to accumulate accessories as a lead-up to the purchase.  Still up in the air on which of several possible approaches is the best for tuning/replacing the trigger.  Would like to set up with around 1.5Kg trigger weight, which would be similar to what I'm running in my F-class stick.

Open to recommendations...

rod regier          
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Friday, August 22, 2008, at 16:51:18 (ZULU)

-Available on gunbroker for $420

-synthetic stock, comes floated

-modular, replaceable barrels *

-short bolt throw *

-very good ergonomics right out of the box *

-great trigger, fully adjustable out of the box *

-good magazines, sit flush and feed clean (they are too expensive though)

-good barrel right outta the box, similar (same quality)as CZ

-very likely to have an aftermarket following, McM and Manners already support the inlet, drop in barrels already available from Lilja, Terry Cross (KMW) making a bolt knob for it.

The items with the "*" are where I give the quad the edge over the CZ and I have both.

medicjim          
Friday, August 22, 2008, at 17:15:16 (ZULU)

Alas, as a Canadian resident, Gunbroker pricing is as relevant to my situation as pricing in Peshwar, Pakistan :-(

(not whining, just observing).

    \\

Sako Quad in .22LR in Canada retails for $C864.94

http://www.lebaron.ca/pdf_files_fall08/hunting/sako_85_rifles.pdf

CZ 452 Silhouette in .22LR in Canada retails for $C490.

http://www.wholesalesports.com/onlinestore/control/category/~category_id=10414/~pcategory=10110018030482

A local dealer may be willing to simplify my purchase logistics on the CZ.  He also is a fan of the CZ rifles, which helps.

I'm looking for a .22LR practice rifle that won't be a significant limiting factor in my accuracy.

Both are substantially more expensive than the Savage offering.

rod regier          
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Friday, August 22, 2008, at 23:52:13 (ZULU)

Fred Hartman          
toledo, ohio, usa - Saturday, August 23, 2008, at 02:26:57 (ZULU)

As an aside, I've a friend who has another CZ 452 in 22LR (like new), with an expensive after market trigger, but I can't remember what make. Breakes very crisp and consistent. He's asking in the ballpark of $325. Anyone interested hit me off line.

Scott

Scott F.          
Hillbillyland, - Saturday, August 23, 2008, at 04:53:21 (ZULU)

As a lot of you know, or if your "Old Timers" is kicking in did know, I'm a RN by profession. One of the things I swore, guess this is what I get for swearing, was I'd never be a traveller. Again guess I should never say never! Anyway I've become a traveling Nurse and I leave for my first assignment on Thurday. Have to be in Weatherford, Texas on Friday morning to do the HR stuff and some orientation. Think I actually start working Tuesday night but not sure of that just yet. One nice thing is Weatherford is only 2 1/2 hours south of BadLands so should be able to get up there for some shooting without much difficulty!

For the amateurs, you know what I mean, I will have 2 different 2m/440 rigs as well as a HF rig with me so contact may be a possibility!

Well things are about to get a whole lot more interesting!

Sarge

Sarge          
Southern Area 51, NM, USA - Saturday, August 23, 2008, at 15:06:09 (ZULU)

You have e-mail with contact info

Thanks mang,

Scott

Scott F.          
Hillbillyland, - Saturday, August 23, 2008, at 16:23:57 (ZULU)

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=386739

Slamfire1 writes:

"Jeff Bartlett told me that future demilling contracts forbid the sale of components. Everything will have to be burnt, or melted down for scrap.

This occurred when Congress was under the control of our "friends" the RINO Republicans.

Hope you stocked up."

rod regier          
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Sunday, August 24, 2008, at 03:07:11 (ZULU)

>""Jeff Bartlett told me that future demilling contracts forbid the sale of components. Everything will have to be burnt, or melted down for scrap.

This occurred when Congress was under the control of our "friends" the RINO Republicans."<

-

I might be wrong on this one, but as I recall, it was Clinton that sprung that one through in an "Executive order", buried under about 9,000 others.

I was pretty good in civics, but I never read the part that the president could make laws "aw by hisself", without going through congress.

I can understand the need for "some" decisions being made fast, like the "Bay of TOnkin" (hee hee hee...) but ALL "Executive orders" should be ratified by Congress at the very next secession, or they immediately self destruct in 15 days.

This country is NOT the one I learned about when I was a kidlet, and not the one my father fought for... he is rolling over in his grave, along with millions of other folks that fought for this country - they were fighting for an idea, NOT a piece of real estate... especially real estate that could be taken by "Eminent domain" and sold to a sleazy developer!

I wish those "Old white guys" would have done a better job of writing the foundation bricks for the building of freedom, because those that followed are experts of "re-interpreting" all that lofty but vague language.

The president was never intended to have even one tenth of the power that he has, and the federal congress was NEVER intended to be the insatiably ravenous, growing monster that it has become.

We need those Ol' White guys to come back and re-do all the documents, like the second amendment the Constitution... it should read:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.  The Free state shall mean the full and complete country hereby called These United States.  The Militia and the People shall, now and forever, be defined as all of the common people who are lawful citizens, and the Militia shall be made up of every lawful citizen, and their responsibility shall be to keep the freedoms that so many have have fought and died for."

See... you gotta spell it out for the folks that get power hungry...

...or kill them!!

-

'lito

CatShooter          
Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Sunday, August 24, 2008, at 18:18:50 (ZULU)

S/F.....Ken M

Ken M          
Monday, August 25, 2008, at 07:28:02 (ZULU)

Have you done any parts tuning of your CZ452 trigger?

My current plan is to get the CZ452 Silhouette, do some parts tuning of the trigger and perhaps get some bedding done if needed by a local stock specialist.  That should still be a lot cheaper (in Canada) than the Sako Quad.

rod regier          
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Monday, August 25, 2008, at 12:58:19 (ZULU)

medicjim          
Monday, August 25, 2008, at 14:47:39 (ZULU)

Concur that infinite adjustability is not a big goal.  The Brooks kit has the charms of price, simplicity and support for international shipping.

http://www.cz452.com/springkit.html

rod regier          
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Monday, August 25, 2008, at 16:50:41 (ZULU)

CDC'          
Tuesday, August 26, 2008, at 12:02:35 (ZULU)

About a year back,I was talkin to a smithy and was informed that the barrels are threaded.So makin a caliber swap from .17HMR to .22mag shouldnt be all that difficult(?).Cant say for a fact wether thats true or not,as so far the HMR has dropped everything I have needed it too,and havent seen the need change it.

Brownells offers a replacement sear for the 452,and an even lighter spring.This was the route I had considered,untill I learned of the Timney.

UnPat

UnPat          
Wi, USA - Tuesday, August 26, 2008, at 12:49:53 (ZULU)

Well, as I figured: Intervention on the quiet to shore up the dollar.  China is our benefactor.  This is not good, but will we give a damn when gas prices fall because of it?  While the currency is being manipulated by dubious foriegn sources--the underlying fundamentals are still killing us:  We cannot export greenbacks indefinately.  Click

Joe M          
Tuesday, August 26, 2008, at 13:55:28 (ZULU)

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=139272&t=11082005

I don't have much use for this contraption but maybe some of you do.  The deal is pretty outrageous.

LTChip          
Wednesday, August 27, 2008, at 19:32:14 (ZULU)