Sniper Country Duty Roster

BKS:

Glad to hear you're still among us.

We want stories :-)

rod regier
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 01:14:39 (ZULU)

rod reiger: Congratulations on the blessed event. It's always a joy.

CDC'
Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 04:03:36 (ZULU)

Greetings,

Joe: If/when you exit the cheddar head state, check out Sodak.

We are in the midst of hard times. Joe's commentary has fundamentally been correct, ie too much debt, governmentally, corporately and individually. In simplest terms, the financial giants fall is all attributable to too much bad debt and not enough liquid assets. As far as the "golden parachutes", read all of the previous/above posts that others have posted on this page. IMHO, it is spot on.

It used to be that you got a loan from a local bank, that loan officer made damn sure you had the assets or were otherwise good for the loan. If not, the bank that you worked for lost money and that loan officer felt the repercusions. In the recent past, God knows who bought the debt and whoever wrote the loan, repurcusions be damned, he still got his/her commision. Anybody see a problem with this?

Glenn Beck is right; This country is broke. Joe is right; you simply cannot print up more money and solve the problem.

On top of all this, we still do not have an energy policy. Ethinol was a stupid idea. Now that corn is around 10 dollars a bushel and soybeans are around 20-25 a bushel, watch food prices continue to rise. For years, historically, corn was between 2-3 dollars a bushel and soybeans 5-6 dollars a bushel. With corn at its current prices, who can afford to feed cattle/hogs? Watch the corresponding price in ham/beef.

Buckle up your seatblets, it is going to be a bumpy flight. Hopefully, people much brighter than me have a plan. I am not quite ready cash out the 401(K) just yet. Even though American investors lost something along the lines of 800 billion dollars this week.....

I am not a big fan of bailouts, but now that the federal taxpayers own AIG, there is a potential for profit for the USG. I am not holding my breathe, but it could happen.

Keep you powder dry folks.

Pat II
Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 04:14:15 (ZULU)

BKS: Glad you weathered the storm.....literally.

Pat II
Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 04:15:51 (ZULU)

Glad you're OK Brian. That was funny but your best (in that category) that I can remember was something like:

"Officer, dat was a bad, bad wreck. Dat man right there, he was ejaculated from the vehicle!"

If I keep hearing about these CZ's I'm going to have to get one too just to be like you guys.

Back to my brass prep chores. My .243 Lapua brass has 4 firings on all of them now and half of them have such loose pockets that the primers almost fall in. I'm just smashing them in a little too hard hoping they spread out some and grab the sides. Very smart move I'm sure.

Marc

MarcS
East S.F. Bay area, CA, - Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 05:17:32 (ZULU)

There's a primer staker gadget that'll tighten up those pockets. Alternately, you can try those Russian Wolf primers, those are extremely large IME and will give you a tightly seated primer. Or you can glue them in.

And regardless of what you do, you should probably back that load off a little bit. S/F.....Ken M

Ken M
Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 09:15:14 (ZULU)

Pat 2,

Take a gander at switching your 401/k to gold or silver.. At least you'll have something at the end of the day that has always had value..

Stay liquid

Calvin

Calvin
e-burg, MD, U.S.A - Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 12:43:23 (ZULU)

Pat-II

>"I am not a big fan of bailouts, but now that the federal taxpayers own AIG, there is a potential for profit for the USG. I am not holding my breathe, but it could happen."<

If the government owns AIG, that's a guarantee that they will fail and not make the two year balloon payment.

If the government owned the Sahara Desert, it would be out of sand in two years.

'lito

CatShooter
Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 14:56:11 (ZULU)

"So, that will be one super-sized bailout special, four small orders of taxpayer buyouts, and a milkshake. Would you like a side of reality with your order this morning, Mr. Sam?

Liquid? Beware that position. Buy stuff! While youz can stil afford to...

Here's what I watched this week: The government just said "we got the risk...youz guys have fun." Brilliant. And, untenable.

Perhaps an anology will help (since I always do anologies any damned way): Lets say the fed fairy decides to grant every last human one wish, but it is limited to one truckload per customer. Each and every human being all wished for a truck load of cash, large bills please. I'm last in line, and I see all this. Being a smart fella, I wish for the LAST and ONLY truckload of food. Who now is the richest man on the planet? Now think about what you are watching play out across the globe's financial centers...yeah. Pretty good'un, eh?

The guv just sent a message: You take all the rewards, we'll take all the risks. The entire world market system opted for the cash truckloads like right freakin' now---and Moscow even shut their market down again---for exploding up (after shutting it down twice in the same week for exploding down). Gyrations like this are scary--at least, to me.

Seriously, knowing what I know now, and knowing what congress cannot do (and what harm they manage to do)--I would NOT accept a free ride to the presidency next January--no freakin' way. Emperor maybe...but not a mere leg in a three way power share. Consensus is no way outta this one. A whole bunch of someones have to be mad, screwed and toast for this to be truly fixed. And, friday the Government volunteered us citizens to be those someones...connect the dots: If a market collapse is bad, imagine what is next.

(metaphor alert...anaolgies aren't my only flaw)

OTOH, I see exactly what the guv'mint is doing: They just bet the treasury on a pair of dueces, 8 high. But they did it with a gleam in their eye---one major bluff with an academy award nomination for best actor. They're betting that the markets, and foriegn governments will fold like a cheap suit (metaphors are just too easy). But, what choice did the guvmint have---they had a major stake in the pot already, and the market went "all in" with toxic exotic securitized debt. On friday, the markets started to fold while holding the royal flush of insolvency---but the cards aren't on the table yet.

The only thing certain is that when the bluff gets called inevitably and eventually---us tax payers will bear the brunt of the government's vain effort to make good on its bet. You do the math though: Can we be squeezed for an extra trillion this year? Heheheh.

No, this is a cynical delay of the obvious. Perhaps to kick the can to the next poor bastard that wins in November; perhaps just to try to take this issue off the table to help one of the poor bastards specifically. But, as sure as sunrise---Treasury and the Fed know exactly how dangerous this gambit is. The emperor's new clothes' is a great fable and apt as all hell here. But, this is the nuclear option, the final last ditch defense against a domino collapse of the economic systems of the planet. I never dreamed I'd see it deployed this year... There are no other ploys left to the guv now.

and, it won't work: The irresponsible Fed joined up with an irresponsible series of congresses and caused this by allowing too many dollars out in the first place (combined with some socialistic legislation that demanded irresponsible lending to the "needy," spending more than the next generation will have, and artificially holding credit down to give-away levels)---so, exponetially more dollars will different this time how? One last anology since I cannot help myself (its a sickness of my literacy): The problem is the dollar is a raging inferno, and we are trying to put out the blaze by throwing more dollars into it.

Yeah...that sums it up nice and tidy:) I hope my metahors and analogies come across as disgusted sarcasm...because that is my attitude when I type these econo-rants:))

Believe it or not...I am the eternal optimist! So what that the world gets flushed down the toilet...I'll far happier going rustic than I could ever be shopping the local supercenter.

Joe M
Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 16:01:32 (ZULU)

Hey Joe,

So just how much incentive do ya think there is for insurance companies to pay out now ? I sure wouldn't want to be making a claim right now in the aftermath of Ike..... I with ya on the buy stuff idea.. But ya gotta buy stuff to make more stuff so when there is no more stuff you can be the supplier of stuff.. How's that for simplified..?

Stay capitalized

Calvin

PS Please pardon the diversion to economics country...

Calvin
e-burg, MD, U.S.A - Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 17:31:53 (ZULU)

In a barter economy .22 ammo is better than gold.

CDC'
Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 17:54:44 (ZULU)

CDC...

>"In a barter economy .22 ammo is better than gold."<

In the aftermath of an economic collapse, a .45 beats a royal flush stock portfolio and a BMW every time ;)))))

'lito

CatShooter
Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 18:04:22 (ZULU)

Some humor for your Saturday morning. Preacher blasting Obama's mama and the media coverage of Palin.

http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr09-03-08.html

MarcS
East S.F. Bay area, CA, - Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 18:17:10 (ZULU)

Pablo: "...45 beats a royal flush stock portfolio..."

I suspect that this crowd is standing pat.

CDC'
Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 18:59:54 (ZULU)

There's a very old saying: "Gold may not always get you guns - but guns will always get you gold."

Lindy
Northern Occupied Mexico, U.S.A. - Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 19:18:47 (ZULU)

Wednesday morning, 0034 something like that, became a grand-dad for the 6th time! Boy, again, Aiden Lee, 19 1/4", 7.4 lbs daughter-in-law, grandson all doing well. This is Sarge Jr.s 3rd boy!

They gotta figure out what's causing this problem!

Sarge

Sarge
Southern Area 51, NM, USA - Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 19:53:33 (ZULU)

"Believe it or not...I am the eternal optimist! So what that the world gets flushed down the toilet...I'll far happier going rustic than I could ever be shopping the local supercenter."

Depends upon just how rustic you get. Got more horses than I can comfortably feed, but even if they become basic transportation, horsedrawn farm implements are scarce. At least ones that still work.

Wagons, carriges and harness are available, but limited supply and expensive.

On the other hand, think about all the bureaucrats that might not be able to commute!

WR Moore
Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 20:44:57 (ZULU)

The thing to watch for now is a wild bull market...and a massive bubble of everything. In a way, the government just said that "we got the down-turns, you guys can have the upside." It's all up. And like all bubbles in the markets....

Joe M
Saturday, September 20, 2008, at 22:15:54 (ZULU)

Thanks KenM. Are you pulling my leg about the device that tightens pockets? It sounds like when I tell my apprentices to get me some toe nails or a lumber stretcher.

MarcS
East S.F. Bay area, CA, - Sunday, September 21, 2008, at 00:17:25 (ZULU)

MarcS - primer pocket swage

No, it's not the reloader's version of "prop wash" or a "left-handed monkey wrench". Personally, I would rather reduce loads a bit, since I suspect swaging a primer pocket to get it to hold a primer probably doesn't lead to as great a gas seal as a "good" pocket.

Here is a vendor of a primer pocket swage, there are probably others:

http://www.mountsplus.com/miva/merchant.mvc?page=MSP/PROD/23_Reloading/PPS-LG1-1PA

$US 36.95

One of the most frustrating problems with reloading is case failure. When the primer pocket becomes enlarged and will no longer hold the primer, the case is useless. Some shooters are even glueing their primers in with LOC-TITE! This is no longer a problem. By using the CASE SAVER, the primer pocket can be re-swaged to form a ring, or “SEATING SEAL” in the primer pocket.

Here is how it works:

1. The case is placed over the SUPPORT STAND.

2. The Guide Pin goes through the flash hole in the case and into the Guide Hole in the top of the SUPPORT STAND.

3. Rap the punch LIGHTLY until the primer pocket grips the PUNCH. This indicates the primer pocket diameter has been sufficiently reduced to allow a primer to once again be held firmly in the case.

4. This process can be repeated as often as the primer becomes loose greatly extending the life of the case.

rod regier
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Sunday, September 21, 2008, at 01:05:04 (ZULU)

The blanketass in me is laughing like hell. Someone is always saying they have a piece of paper that proves they can take your land/house.When the land was there before your grandfather was born and will be there when your grandkids are dead. How can you own it?

Maybe after everyone starves the bison will come back ; )

If you have a full belly and a dry place to sleep, everything else is a luxury. The last time there was a depression my family had the dustbowl to deal with at the same time. This time should be easy ; )

4eyes
Siloam Springs, AR, USA - Sunday, September 21, 2008, at 01:48:02 (ZULU)

Thanks Rod. I will reduce the charge weight and use that tool to help the ones I've damaged so far.

I love this place.

MarcS
East S.F. Bay area, CA, - Sunday, September 21, 2008, at 02:01:25 (ZULU)

Wasn't it Hobbes who said, "In nature, Man's life is nasty, poor, brutish and short"? I've got kids to raise. A Great Depression would be inconvenient. If events get way out of hand, I'd band together with my neighbors.

CDC'
Sunday, September 21, 2008, at 04:26:55 (ZULU)

Economics country,

CatShooter: If the government was running the Sahara, they would be out of sand in less than two years? Funny. I would like to tell you you're wrong. I can't.

Calvin: I am not there yet with he precious metals, but they have always been part of the portfolio.

Philospphy country: Hobbes stated " the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short." Hobbes was writing in protest of the anarchy caused by the English War circa 1640s and of his support for authoritarian political system capable of providing peace and stability. The above quote was referring to the state of man in the conditions in which no peace or stabiltiy exist. FWIW.

I have managed to reference Calvin & Hobbes on Sniper Country. That's enuff for today.

Pat II
Sunday, September 21, 2008, at 23:49:21 (ZULU)

To All: I said hello and asked a few questions, a few days ago, and got no response. Pertinate questions reguarding shooting topics like scopes and accessories and responded to a refrence about a scope base that I have experience with. What'd I get in return, nothing. Nice to have folks welcomew you back after you've been out working your but off in a deadly job. 11 deaths so far this year and over 45 accidents, It's nice to have people say high, and how you been doing, and maybe answer a guestion that actually pertains to shooting. Thanks for making me feel so welcomed back and all the advise on the scope. Did everyone really dislike me that much. I've been on and off here since 2001 or earlier. Longer than most. This is a new low in unwelcomness and clickishness.

Opinions on the scopes and rifles would be appreciated

Jeff Cooper
Gadsden, TN, USA - Monday, September 22, 2008, at 03:53:09 (ZULU)

"clickishness"?

Jeff Cooper: Some of us old farts have CRS so bad that we can't remember who went where and who did what. I'm the worst of the lot. Where were you and what were you doing?

Sometimes questions receive no answer. Maybe nobody knows. Maybe we figure someone else will answer. I, for one, don't know beans about NF scopes or .338 Lapuas. There's no need to get snitty.

Pat II: Thanks for correcting the quote and the context. The point stands.

CDC'
Monday, September 22, 2008, at 05:43:33 (ZULU)

NF scopes have been nice IME, a step above Loopie about commensurate with the step up in price. I just wish they offered BDC/cam like adjustments. Don't currently own one, have a rackload of Mk 4's and LRT's, all M3 turrets. Not a huge fan of their 56mm objs, the 50's seem acceptable although right on the edge of too big.

338 LM, buy a GAP on a CZ550 seems to be the way to go, get exactly what you want/need. S/F.....Ken M

Ken M
Monday, September 22, 2008, at 06:53:18 (ZULU)

Jeff - you post started out with a discussion on near bases...I didn't read past that and missed your question. I joined in 2001 and didn't recall your name...sorry. Welcome back, glad you are still upright.

I bought my first nightforce last year...put it on a 7WSM. I like the mecanicals on the scope...but have thus far found the clarity not functionally better than the leupolds. I'll probably not buy another due to the cost.

Speaking of high cost...Premier Reticles has just come out with a new scope they are building without a partner...could be a winner. I'll be watching for the next year or so to see how the early adopters make out.

medicjim
Monday, September 22, 2008, at 12:32:19 (ZULU)

Jeff Cooper (the other one)

I looked for your post and it was on the 9th - that's in the last century! :)

>"Scope Country: now that the Night Force craze is in full swing and there's more of them out on the market, What's the latest opinion compared to Leupold and the other high enders. Gotta buy something in the next month in 3.5/6 X 15/20 power."<

My opinion it that they are good scopes, but way too heavy and large for anything except guns that are shot from static positions.

And at 3.5 to 15-20~ish power, the large objective is wasted.

In that power range, a Nikon Monarch would be a better choice, and half the price.

Or (dare I say it), the Bushnell:

http://www.swfa.com/pc-9847-185-bushnell-6-24x50-elite-4200-30mm-rifle-scope.aspx

... this is a scope that is made by the company that made the B&L scopes, it has a fine reputation. Also half the price of a NF.

>"338LM: What's the latest news on who makes the best affordable "2500-6000" Rifle. I've been considering the TRG and the Mac."<

By "2500-6000", do you mean yards or dollars (or Yen) :))))

TRG is nice but if you just want to try it and see if you like the 338 Lap, then the Armalite is a lot of gun for the money, and the Armalite has a nice mounting system if you are looking at rages past 1,200 yds.

I have one in 50BMG... and with a B&L 10x Tac, I can dial the elevation from 100 to 2,700 meters with no "holdover".

I "Wuv it!"

Sorry to be so late in answering - we're not snitty, just busy.

Ask me what I have been doing since you were away :(

On second thought - don't!!

Back to legal shit :((((

'lito

CatShooter
Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Monday, September 22, 2008, at 15:37:40 (ZULU)

Pat II,

Thank god the unknowing are paying a PREMIUM for gras-fed beef!

They don't realise that packers are just cutting out the feedlots altogether, saving both months in production but also the costs of "finishing".

On the bright side, however, beef that has never been to a feedlot likely has never received any antibiotics, as free ranging cattle are healthier. Cattle that have been through a salebarn or feedlot are 75% more likely to have some sort of illness that will require doctoring.

The down side, however, is rural economies being hurt by locals being out of work, farmers having a hard time getting a good price for their corn,(Hey, where's ll the damned ethanol plants I was promised?) local banks having to cover bad loans to farms and feeder operations that never would have thought they'd see the day when people would prefer NOT to have corn fed beef, since it's got more marbling,(fat) flavor,(duh) and is more tender, because in the last coupla months of a feeder steer's life, he's so fat, when he lays down, he has a hard time getting up! (Seriously, they just lay around and fart all day!) This immobility adds to their health problems because any animal that lays on it's side too much develops pneumonia, which requires antibiotics.

'Lito,

"If the government owned the Sahara Desert, it would be out of sand in two years." That ain't no shit!

Joe,

On that "last truckload of food" theory, I'd just wish to be your son in law. Free food, ammo, and guns! Now, who's the smart son of a bitch ?!?!?!

MarcS,

Good post! Imagine the shitstorm if Jimmy Swaggart or some other white guy called Obama's mama a whore? (which she was{is?}) As for the attacks on the pregnant daughter, I bet Obama's daughter's only about a year from being caught "dropping it like it's hot". Let's see how the piece of shit feels about what "his peeps" choose to show on mass media. (With my apologies to any normal, hard working, tax paying black guys that know how to read/write/speak english and pull their damn pants up! You're probably more pissed about how black folks are portrayed in the media than I am.)

Sarge,

Congrats! My stepson just turned 13, and I can't wait to turn his kids into cussing, spitting, hunting, fishing, trapping, gun toting bronc riders. Just not TOO soon.

WR Moore,

At Dad's estate sale, his buckboard went for under $1500, I believe. Wish I coulda afforded it, but I hate riding in the damn thing when I own pefectly good cowhorses. If you go to farm sales during shitty weather, a lot of this stuff can be picked up for a song. Most folks won't stand in freezing rain for a bargain. I will. That's why I need to build a really big shed, so I can spread all my crap out, and see what all I have! I'm pretty sure my shopsmith wan't intended for hanging shit on it!

MarcS,

When I was sent for board stretchers, nail straightenrs, etc., I used to walk out of sight, then go on break. It helps if you bring back douhnuts, and 'splain about how they didn't have them in the trailer, and the clerk at the quick shop didn't have any, either!

Jeff,

Thanks for serving. If we didn't think you were a dick before, .......

Generally, if nobody answers your question, they just didn't notice it, or they just don't know for sure. This ain't arfcom, where nobody has ever had a rifle that wouldn't shoot under half a inch, regardless of the load and conditions.

Folks here, if they don't know the answer, or don't have hard data and experience, won't speak up with a bunch of bullshit. Chances are, half the time, someone is actively looking for the answer, or is awaiting a chance to go out and shoot to find out what results they get with a load you asked about in their rifles.

You're really running a risk of alienating a very valuable resource here with that attitude. Not everyone get a parade.

Went to a cowboy shoot this weekend. First big all day thing I've been to since the back surgery. ......I didn't make it to the second day; WHO schedules the safety meeting for 8:15 a.m. on a SUNDAY? It ain't like we had to worry about wind conditions! The "big bore rifle" competition took place at 7 and 25 yards! I considered trying it with my handguns, but I'd been having ammo problems all day.

On that ammo problem, what was happening was, I had loaded up about 300 rounds for this match, using Winchester large pistol primers, used cases of various brands, and 5.8 grains of Trail Boss under a 250 gr. RNFP. My buddy and I were shooting four different pistols, and sharing a rifle. He had several squibs in his guns, and one in the rifle, and I had two hang up in my pistols.

We had a lot of loads that were so light, we could see them arcing towards the base of the target, and left some unburned powder in the gun. We also had the aforementioned squibs, which never left the barrel. Several of the light loads were so light, I stopped shooting, until I got a consensus from the spotters that they ALL saw them land.

These primers were all from the same lot, and had been stored on a shelf in my garage, where they stayed nice and dry. I hadn't been handling any solvents or anything, and my whole reloading setup was the same as usual.

Anyone see anything I mighta missed, or is this just a shitty batch of primers? It was surely a helluva way to waste $40 on match fees.

FYI:

If you take a shooter's gun that has one hung in the barrel so he can continue a shooting stage, ASK before you attack his gun with a range rod. Maybe he wants to do it himself, so he can examine it and deduce what happened. Maybe he has a certain way he wants it done.

Nobody damaged my gun, so far as I know, but I don't want someone monkeying with it without my say so. It just seems like it'd be the thing to do, to wait until he's done, THEN ask if he wants help with it! It pisses me off to have to ask who the hell has my gun, and WHERE the hell they went with it! Take it to the unloading table, let me stage it, or I'll take the stage DQ, stop shooting then and there, and go take care of it myself!

Is that too much to ask?

Travis Morgan
Wichita, Ks., U.S.A. - Monday, September 22, 2008, at 16:06:08 (ZULU)

I remember that I was once sent out for some "prop wash". Huh. Little did they know that the Hamilton Standard prop has a propietary finish that is supposed to be washed with a certain liquid soap to prevent the finish from being removed. It has an NSN. I was gone the appropriate amount of time (to have lunch, run my laundry, etc) to get the standard guffaws. Not nearly as much mirth was evidenced when I returned with 5 gallons of ruinously expensive propellor wash which was charged to the section's quarterly budget. Don't fuck with a man who knows the supply system.

Jeff....Don't get your feelers hurt. I'm still over here. Folks are still getting killed. Rosterfarians are still a great bucha folks. Hakuna matata, amigo.

News is saying the Marriott bombing has all the "earmarks" of AQ. Huh? Like, an exploding truck? McVeigh had the same earmark. My money is on the Indians getting a little tit for the Pakis's tat. AQ is being conspicuously quiet on this one. Local wit says it's the Indians. If we can get the Hindi and the Paki's at each other, maybe the Paks will be too busy to bankroll the Talibs and keep their wicks in Afghani affairs.

Charles S. Hunt
San Antonio, Texas, USA - Monday, September 22, 2008, at 16:29:38 (ZULU)

Travis on primers:

Try the same load with different primers.

Something could have happened to the primers before they reached your hands too. Not too common, but anything is possible.

Use a sample size of at least 20.

What about your powder or powder measure? Squibs tend to be a powder measure issue in my experience. Unless you are talking really large case capacity, primers tend to either light up ok or don't fire at all. Changed anything in your powder measure setup since last successful production?

rod regier
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Monday, September 22, 2008, at 16:48:52 (ZULU)

Chuck,

Fox news is reporting that the truck burned in front of the Marriot for an extended period of time before it went boom. People still got killed.....WTF? Either fight the fire (max 15 minutes) or get out of the area.... how difficult is that decision...

medicjim
Monday, September 22, 2008, at 16:50:08 (ZULU)

Charles:

great prop wash story!

I don't mind pulling the new guy's leg, but not to the point of sending him somewhere else on a pointless errand.

rod regier
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Monday, September 22, 2008, at 16:52:41 (ZULU)

Travis on primers: I bought a carton of Winchester large pistol primers Lot #WFL734G2451 on December 12, 1986. These primers have been stored in an air conditioned room. The first 750 fired normal. The last 150 has given 33 fail to fire on first trigger pull. Two of them took three tries before they fired. When they did fire the recoil and group was normal. These were shot in a Glock 21 .45 ACP.

HDR

Edited because of CRS.

HDR
OK, - Monday, September 22, 2008, at 17:56:31 (ZULU)

Greetings,

Jeff Cooper: I didn't sse your return post. Welcome back. Point taken on the shooting related topics. I actually used to post/read about shooting/ firearms topics on the roster.....

CDC: Hobbes absolutely supports your point, IMHO.

Pat II
Monday, September 22, 2008, at 19:09:50 (ZULU)

Shooting country? Oh. Ok.

Then don't click on my name! (oil is up massively, the flight away from the dollar begins before the bailout is even voted on---to my surprise)

Jeff: Morgue's your man on Night force scopes and 338 LM sticks. He swears by both, and knows something of their usage.

Divorce is turned for the worse. Might (likely) be selling some stuff, still mulling it over. Any interest in SCLE#47, less than 800 rounds, topped with a premier gen II loopy 3-10xM3LR and the high-speed low drag pod paws thingies, Bubble level and all the obligatory tactical stuff, like a Miller sling etc. May also part with the DPMS 260LR and badger base/ rings, a 5.5-22x50 NF scope with MLR, and a selcted culling of other nice things from the safe.

Is there a market for such things here (grin)?

And yes, I do this with some major regret. But, I am broke due to supporting another household along the way and other shennanigans. Cool psy-op to bust that one open this weekend, and no less painful because I was so damned clever....but, at least now I know the real reason for this BS. Now to get the *f* outta dodge. Be posting on the emporium soon. Be the first kid on your block to buy at Joe's...

Joe M
Monday, September 22, 2008, at 19:35:10 (ZULU)

Rod,

Most went off just fine, which makes me think it's not the powder. When I was farting around, shooting steel after the match, and had the luxury of doing some observation, whenever I'd hve a squib or weak load, I'd inspect the gun and discover plenty of unburned or partially charred powder.(So it COULD be the powder, I guess!)

I'm using a Dillon Square Deal Model B. It seems to be filling cases just fine, as I pulled a bunch off of the press, just to weigh, and they were within spec for .45 Colt loads that don't have to fly very far. The loads were 5.8 gr. Trailboss under 250 gr. RNFP and 6.0 gr. Trailboss under 200 gr. RNFP.

HDR,

In that case, it MUST be Glock's fault! LOL! Damn plastic sonsa....

Travis Morgan
Wichita, Ks., U.S.A. - Monday, September 22, 2008, at 19:37:12 (ZULU)

Travis...

Keep in mind that black powder burns ON the surface of the grain, and the burning rate is 8 feet per second - maybe 5% more under high pressure.

But smokeless powder burns ABOVE the surface of the grain. The heated Nitrocellulose gives off a gas that decomposes into a flame ABOVE the grain surface.

The pressure in the case determines how close the flame is to the grain surface. The flame NEVER touches the grain.

The higher the pressure, the closer the flame.

The closer the flame, more heat is transferred to the grain surface.

The more heat is transferred to the grain surface, the more flammable gas given off from the surface of the grain.

The more flammable gas given off from the surface of the grain, the higher the pressure...

... and around and around and around and around and around.

That's why it called "Progressive burning" powder - it has no fixed burn rate.

But the opposite applies equally. If you remove the pressure (the bullet leaves the barrel) before the powder is fully burned, the flame moves away from the grain, the grain surface cools and stops giving off the decomposable gas, and the flame can actually "go out".. leaving unburnt powder grains.

There is nothing wrong with the powder.

I would suggest going to a faster powder, and a rifle magnum primer (if the hammer will fire a rifle primer.

That should do it.

'lito

CatShooter
Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Monday, September 22, 2008, at 20:13:48 (ZULU)

Test

Marius
Monday, September 22, 2008, at 20:35:09 (ZULU)

'Lito,

This load has worked just fine for quite a while, and is a common one used by about half the people shooting in these single action deals.

Joe,

Did she get that "fish out of water" look on her face when you dropped the bomb, like she'd just been socked in the breadbasket?

Women always seem shocked to find out that they're not the only ones that can play mind games. When we do it, we don't take pot shots; we punch for the back of the skull.

I got to thinking after you mentioned that you were "heavily invested" in her family's farm land. Get the forms from the humane society of the U.S.(HSUS) and the Sierra Club, to donate land and fill them out. If it comes down to it, show them to her family. I bet they blink first. If you donate it before she can do anything, both groups have more lawyers than she'll ever be able to get. You can make her family make her act right, if they're afraid of losing their farming income. It's hard to farm when you're ass deep in hippies and EIS statements. Kind of an asshole move, but you don't really want to have to start another career, do ya?

Travis Morgan
Wichita, Ks., U.S.A. - Monday, September 22, 2008, at 21:40:14 (ZULU)

Hey guys,

It’s been a while (years) since I’ve been on the Roster. I’ve been working in the NFA market, mostly black rifles, and doing gun ‘tinker’ smithing on the side. Now I need solid advice that I knew I could get here.

I have a customer who wants a precision rifle built on an AR-15 platform chambered in 6.8mm (SPC). I explained to him that I build mil spec and combat toys for the NFA hobby crowd and haven’t done precision builds for a while, much less on the AR platform, but he insists.

What, if any, precision results could I expect from an AR assembled with top grade components, and who is making these components right now. I can get 6.8 heavy barrels and 2-stage match triggers, but this guy wants the top shelf.

I told him I’d get a build list of parts and mfgs to go over for him to decide on, but I’m not really sure where to look for the best in 6.8mm parts. He’s hoping for ½ MOA out of this build. Any advice?

Thanks,

Todd

TODD
Gladstone, Virginia, USA - Monday, September 22, 2008, at 22:22:08 (ZULU)

Test

Trajan Aurelius
East Bay, CA, USA - Monday, September 22, 2008, at 22:40:33 (ZULU)

re Travis primer issue:

Ah 'Lito, you're saying it's a large case capacity issue?

Which would explain your magnum rifle primer recommendation.

(I did mention "...really large case capacity"). I've read about such issues, but have managed to avoid them so far. Biggest cases I have loaded were .300 Win Mag, but I was making lapping loads for them using WLR primers and Infallible powder (similar to Unique). Not exactly a normal usage.

HDR: Were the problem primers from the top or the bottom of the box? Perhaps they were contaminated with a liquid on their source storage shelf? (Of course, they're presumably long gone. And unless someone wanted to pay for trace analysis at that point, we'll probably never know).

rod regier
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Monday, September 22, 2008, at 23:54:13 (ZULU)

Joe- I'm sorry to hear about this and I hate to see you have to sell the good stuff. My heart goes out to you.

I'm also pissed off! First JC sells his SCLE rifle and I didn't have the dough at the time, then things straightened out for me and I bought a bunch of stuff, now I'm tight again in the gun budget area and you are selling yours! I could jump into a barrel of pink titties and come out sucking my thumb I just don't get it.

Jeff- I've been popping in and out of here since some time around '99 or 2000. I remember seeing your name but I'm sorry I don't remember what you do or where you were. In your post I saw the start about Near bases and skimmed right over the rest. I do that alot. As for a response here goes:

I had a NF scope which I liked overall.

GOOD STUFF-

-Fine reticle that was etched in the glass and "floating" so to speak.

-Absolutely accurate, repeatable adjustments with very solid feeling clicks.

-Very clean image quality which was to my eye a little better than my Loopies have been.

-Decent deal for the money considering price increases from Leupold.

BAD STUFF-

-Biggest bitch from me was only 10 MOA of adjustment per revolution of the knobs. With a .308 your spinning the shit out of the dial in both directions all the time with changing ranges. Their answer to this is to put some little, tight together, microscopic lines under the knob to show you what rev you're on. Well this is the wrong goddamn answer because it's very easy to be off one full rev or 10 MOA. That could cause a miss and is the main reason I sold the scope.

-They are not FFP. This is important to me and now that I have this on my new scope I'll always want it in the future. This is the part where I would say what I bought, but 'Lito might be listening HA!

-The eyepiece rotates with changing the power setting so my flip cap release button would rotate around with it and get in the way of my bolt. I learned this in a match during a timed event and it FUCKED me.

-The tube is two pieces. I guess this really isn't a big deal because mine never failed even after I spiked it into the ground, twice, at a match in So Cal last year in a short fit of anger. Long story. Embarassing story too. I have to say the scope was not damaged at all so it probably is tough enough for most of us.

Mine was a 50mm and I wouldn't want it any bigger than that. It was a little on the big and bulky side already IMO. Wouldn't want it on a "field rifle".

As for .338's I can't afford to feed one so I don't own one but I do know it sucks to compete next to a guy shooting one with a brake for two days!

That's it!

Marc

MarcS
East S.F. Bay area, CA, - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 00:53:39 (ZULU)

MedicJim:

It didn't burn all that long. If you saw the video that was released, then you saw all the confusion. Apparently, the BG's tried to blow the truck, but had a squib and only blew themselves, starting the fire in the cab. All I can think of is that the security people thought it was just a fire and started running around like the proverbial chickens. The actual payload was over 600 kilos of various explosives, including anti-tank mines. I'm not EOD, so I don't know how the fire set off the rest of the payload, maybe the mines? Anyway, the security video continues on for a few moments, then BOOM.

I have quietly pulled my team back a hundred yards from the VCP's.

Charles Hunt
San Antonio, Texas, USA - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 03:33:06 (ZULU)

Just for fun - from the Discovery Channel.

http://military.discovery.com/tv/sniper/quiz/quiz.html

Trajan Aurelius
East Bay, CA, USA - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 03:36:21 (ZULU)

>"Just for fun - from the Discovery Channel.

http://military.discovery.com/tv/sniper/quiz/quiz.html"<

Can I get $8,000 to $15,000 for my snipie riffle?

Huh, please?

It comes with a real floating barrel, and a fiberglass stock!

'lito

CatShooter
Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 03:52:40 (ZULU)

Travis,

In my experience your 45lc load should be fine.. Trail boss is one of the 'new' super bulky powders design just for big bulky black powder era cartridges. Couple of things I'd take a look at is the powder 'bridging ' in your powder measure and some how throwing a short charge? Are the primers being seated fully ? If for some reason their not the energy that the hammer uses to seat them can cause misfires... Could the primers or feeder tube somehow of been contaminated with oil or gun cleaning solvent ? Oil kills primers fast ! Was it a warm day or did the ammo ever get really hot ? You could have some lube contamination do to melted lube running down inside the case. That would be my bet as I have really seen that one happen alot especially with the soft lubes like spg. Also it could just be a bad lot of primers that somehow got contaminated before they came to you.. An undersized bullet can cause this kind of problem to.... Commercial cast stuff is notoriously hard and undersized so to paraphrase lito' "no pressure no go". You've probably already measured your cylinder and matched the bullet to that diameter, right ?

I had a similar problem with my ruuugers.. Barrel's measure .451 so I sized bullets to .452 just like the book says... Squib city. Checked front of cylinder measured .454-.456.. HHHmmm me says ! Stated sizing to .454 and all problems went away and accuracy went way up to. Just my experience to man.. oh and my load was 5.5 of trail boss over a cci lg pistol primer and under a lee 255swc..

Crimps good right ?

I feel your pain with having other folks mess with your guns... Personally I always just makes sure the weapon is secured and not covering anyone til the owner comes and takes possession of it. I consider it uncouth to mess with another man's gun with out his permission.

Jeff Cooper,

I saw your post and I have two .338 lapuas but as a po' man mine only cost 450 ( sako ) and 1100 ( ar 30 ) so I'm out of your price range. I would how ever be happy to share my experience with both of them with whom ever. But as you asked a specific question about a specific price range I didn't chime in.

Stay safe

Calvin

Calvin
e-burg, MD, U.S.A - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 11:02:22 (ZULU)

Now I feel at home!

A couple of the posts seemed to think I was over seas/in the sand box. Sad to say that I wasn't. Started to join after last years crappy flying season, but at 38 I wasn't going to be let in or assigned where I wanted to be.

Charles: I may have to go the route you did. You are working on contract?

I've been working 7 days a week 16-18 hour days flying cropdusters. The ethenol plants?? as long as they keep growing corn I'm happy. I had a good eonogh year to cover last years drought and more. were still spraying but it's cotton defoliation and a lot slower.

I went ahead and ordered the NF 5.5X22X50 NP-R1 last week. didn't know about the eyepiece problem. Would also rather had a FFP reticle but thought I'd give them a try anyway. I'll set it next to my M4 6.5X20X50 Leupold and compare when it comes in.

Lito: been reading posts and kinda have a feeling of what you're doing. Great you are finally getting some satisfaction in the custody case. If I'm reading right?

Joe: Hope your's goes better than Lito's, but hang on to the stuff as long as possible. Sell the stuff she's likely to ask for in the divorce, and not the stuff that she probably isn't keeping track of monitarily.

Travis: Sold every last head this summer. Grain prices too high to feed IMHO. May even plant soybeans in the pasture next summer if the price stays up.

Morgue: Where you at? Let me know how the TRG's been shooting.

everyone else with the 338. The last time I posted there weren't but about 4 makers on the market, so I'm gonna have to check the newer and less expensive ones out.

Thanks and sorry so long, Jeff

Jeff Cooper
Gadsden, TN, - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 13:42:42 (ZULU)

MarcS, it's just as well that you can't afford Joe's rifle, you'd probably just butcher it up like you did to your first one. You should be ashamed of yourself for doing that. :)

Tony Burkes
Alvin, Texas, United States of America - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 14:00:26 (ZULU)

re: 45LC loadings

Calvin's advice is bang-on! Review carefully.

rod regier
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 16:23:00 (ZULU)

Any guys coming to Bikes Blues & Barbeque? I was plannin on offering room&board to rosterfarians but the kid is coming home from college.

Click my name for the link.

Just picked up Enemies F&D, and UC from the library last night. Already 1/4 through EF&D. FYI the libraries have and inter-library loan program, so no matter how small your library is in your two-horse town, you can get any book in the system nationwide for $3.50 shipping cost.

Reloading Country: is it possible to download a .17 fireball to make it suitable for gray squirrels? Assuming head shots of course.

4eyes
Siloam Springs, AR, USA - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 16:31:51 (ZULU)

Jeff:

Yeah, I went over to the Dark Side. If you decide that you want to look at that route, hit me off line and I'll hook you up with some email addy's for info. With your flying skills, you should be able to find a job.

Charles Hunt
San Antonio, Texas, USA - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 17:03:19 (ZULU)

Jeff...yeah, here's to hoping.

As for the likely lack-of-all-hope crisis, it is heading south faster than a kanook in December. Despite of all my previous experience with this crap--I am flat on my ass this time. Perhaps it is the "all-in" try I wanted to put forth for this round of marriage. Whatever it is, I find myself in a piss poor tactical situation all at once. I was so totally invested in her that I climbed way out on the limb here. Now, looking around with my new reality--I find I am deep in enemy territory, out of range for any friendly fire support; with a only a few nuclear options left...

In the immortal words of a guy on my first team: "shithellfuck."

I do know one thing: Now is not the time for me to wonder how I got here. Now is the time to extract myself as best I can and fast. But damn, where to start?

I think the first thing I gotta let go of is my slavish desire to protect my credit rating. I've rebuilt it before, and that may be the only reason I am being so hesitant about every damned thing.

Any advice is highly desired, offline preferred:))

Joe M
Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 17:06:22 (ZULU)

Joe,

If you could pass on some of those tips on how to un-fuck my credit,(offline) I'd appreciate it. My wife already put us through one bankruptcy, and she's riding hell for leather towards another.

She's making at least double what she was 4 years ago, yet we have to scape up money for dog food! (Having to board my horse is no help,but it's only $175 a month, and my only extravagance is chew, pretty much)

Travis Morgan
Wichita, Ks., U.S.A. - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 17:48:58 (ZULU)

Rod Regier: Primer issues.

“HDR: Were the problem primers from the top or the bottom of the box? Perhaps they were contaminated with a liquid on their source storage shelf? (Of course, they're presumably long gone.”

As you may have noticed in my post to Travis I had only fired 900 (750+150) of the 1000 in the carton. I put the other box back to remind me not to buy Winchester primers.

They had not been contaminated.

After Travis post I got the box to get the lot number then for chuckles I loaded the 100 primers and went to the range. Much to my surprise every one of them fired without any problems. I have no idea why I only had problems with a box and a half. I may have to try Winchester again.

HDR
OK, - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 18:37:51 (ZULU)

HDR: I use Winchester primers pretty much exclusively. Typically one problem every 10,000 or so in manufactured ammo, less than that in my reloads. Actually, I'd push that stat to most manufacturers - it seems I get more duds in manufactured ammo than my reloads with any primer.

And Sarge, congrats to you and Junior both!

Joe, it's interesting (and a bit disconcerting) that you see things from a different angle, but we come up on the same target in the end. My estimation, also, is that a superheated economy is the economic 'white flag of surrender'. I thought I saw the beginnings of it a little while ago, but I suppose that was just 'stimulus checks' being used. I'm glad it calmed down, I was questioning if it were SOL time.

When you see people cashing in retirement funds to buy tangibles, that's the last tell-tale sign that the greenbacks aren't worth anything (tangibles will always have barter value).

The local chinamarts (walmart - made in china!) are stocking food storage items in places of notice. They sell fast. My opinion is that more people are losing 'faith' every day. And since the greenback is solely valuated in 'faith'.....

When too many people do that, the economy will superheat. Meltdown is immenent.

I started to post the following a little while back, but then reconsidered. It sat in a word file on my desktop - but seeing as how things are going, I figured "might as well". Anyway, here's the post:

Joe said "Anybody advocating this in DC? On the campaign trail?"

The answer is yes. And not any more. In that order.

Ron Paul stood up and told everyone what the fiat currency situation was, what it would bring, and how to avoid the eventual outcome. There's a current video of his out now, from the floor of Congress, making the point that We The People have purchased AIG - but this was not voted on by Congress. Since We The People owe the bill, that amounts to taxation without representation, doesn't it?

But when Ron Paul was talking about the NEED of revamping our economic system, "wise and great" men like roooody gooolie-whatsis laughed at him derisively, and the mass media ate it up.

He laid out his plan to completely fix the situation. Not just trying to put it off long enough for him to "get his and get out" like virtually all politicians strategize.

Then the feds raided companies making little round silver and gold medallion looking things with Ron Paul's face on 'em. Said they were "dangerous to the economy and the stability of the federal reserve system" - even though they weren't even close to counterfeiting any known currency.

Which actually IS the truth - I'd much rather have a one ounce stubby cylinder made out of 90+% silver than 20 federal reserve notes. So would most folks...... and as we all know Gresham's Law says that 'coin shaped' moderately pure pieces of silver (sufficient enough in number) would make federal reserve notes as worthless as toilet paper.

Oooops, almost there already.

When I talked about The Ron Paul Solution, I was deemed the fruitloop.

People kept telling me there was no physical way that 16% of amirikan residents would vote for him - that's all it takes to vote in ANY president.

He "couldn't win".

I never thought I'd live to see the day that amirikan residents just rolled over and 'gave up', but that time is here and now.

Conscience? Nah, I'll just vote for the most convenient evil I can find.

Responsibilities -responsibilities connected to the liberties we enjoy- to the Republic? Nah, I'll vote for whoever seems the lesser of the evils - as long as I can keep the status quo. Even if both candidates have already stated flatly that they don't feel limited to (and have no intention of being confined by) the Constitutional Contract with The People that they're seeking to sign.

Then again I'd have thought I'd never hear an American say that there was no way the Party of the Constitution "had no chance". Maybe I didn't - maybe I only heard amirikan residents pretending to be Americans - but sure as the sun rises I'm despondent over what I see coming.

And like you, I believe we're at the inflection point that marks the point of no return.

We're all in a barrel together, floating down a stream. The demopublican socialists gripe that we're not all singing the same song as we head towards the falls.

The republicrat socialists slow us from 20MPH to 15MPH, and claim that's "the same thing as putting her in reverse". We're yelling that the falls are coming up quick - but it's so late in the game nobody is going to get out of it dry.

If nothing more than the death of the republicratic and demopublican socialist halves of the same party get ousted, I'll at least find some comfort there. Not much, but some.

I'm thinking I've been posting too much lately.

Time for me to go back to the hide...... gotta work on the beans, bullets, and bandaids.

Bravo
Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 19:11:29 (ZULU)

Haven't been here in awhile, doesn't seem to have chnaged much.

Tried to get some folks here interested in the 338L back in 2002/3, been shooting one since 1998. Might be some posts of interest in the archives. The 700 is a good basis for building one if you can find a gunsmith that will do it. Remington has built at least 10 of them, Remington's Marketing people have prevented them from hitting the shelves (do a google search for "Remington SR8"). CZ has said the 550 action is not strong enough...

Todd,

You can buy a complete top-drawer 6.8 upper from Precision Reflex.

Marc
Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 19:39:11 (ZULU)

Tony- You're right I am ashamed! I spent so much money changing it into what it is now I could have just bought another rifle in the first place. I've shipped it back to George three times for different things and now only the action, base, rings and trigger are original. That's why I want to repent and get another SCLE :)

MarcS
East S.F. Bay area, CA, - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 20:24:16 (ZULU)

MarcS, with your track record I'm not sure Joe should let you have his baby. Within a month he probably wouldn't even recognize her. There were only 50 made you know, oops sorry, only 49 now, thanks to you. LOL

There you go Joe, put that gray matter into action. Now you're thinking, don't forget the OODA loop. Think quicker than she can. The Wikipedia definition of OODA LOOP is pretty interesting, Boyd's book is a really good read.

Tony Burkes
Alvin, Texas, United States of America - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 21:42:10 (ZULU)

Damn...

So many days and nothin' is said on SC - now I go out for a few hours, and it's a friggin' gab fest!

Anyway... Jeff Cooper (the other one) welcome back - even if we don't talk to you, just hang around, you'll like us ;)))

Legal poo-poo keeps getting better.

There was a "psychologist" that did a bogus eval on me and my ex and Ruggus Rattus.

Cost $4,700 and it was a fake (he was picked by the other side... Duh).

So I took him to small claims court to get my money back, cuz I could prove he juggled the report to come out favorably for her.

Small claims is easy, and goes up to $5,000.

But the creep gets a slicky scumbag lawyer, who files a false "Sworn affidavit", and gets the suit moved up to regular court, where the rules of evidence and procedure are way over my head.

SHIT... I can't fight that!

Then it dawns on me that filing a false sworn affidavit is a felony.... so I call the scumbag lawyer and say... "OK, you got around me with that move to big court, but here's what I'm gonna do. Your client's false affidavit is a felony and if I don't have a check for the full amount, I will file felony charges against your client, and then I will go back and refile in small claims court - and I will keep doing this every six months for the next ten years."

I pick up the check for $4,735 tomorrow morning :))))))))))

After I finished getting the Rug Rat and got him squared away in school, I wanted to sue my first lawyer.

When I looked into it, I found that there was SIX DAYS LEFT, until the statute of limitations ran out :((

So I went to the law library and cobbled together an 18 page law suit, and filed it with three days to spare.

Now... there is no way in hell I could take a $1,500,000 case through the system, so I started calling legal malpractice attorneys, and they all wanted big money upfront and I needed someone to take it on contingency, cuz I am o-fish-uly broke :(.

As time goes by, the other side is hitting me with papers that you need a degree in Latin to even read, much less understand, with references to past court decisions and other case law - that's badd :(((

Well I was calling around and getting "No, I won't take it", when I hit a guy that is about 20 minutes from home. He said he doesn't take cases on contingency, so I asked him if he knows anyone that would take my case. So he asked what my case was, and I gave him the 5 minute phone version. He said that I should come up and talk to him, and maybe he could find someone to help me.

To make an hours worth of stuff short, he took the case on contingency! What that means is that he thinks the case is Goddamn strong.

He also read the suit that I filed, and said I did an outstanding job, and must have learned a lot in the last three years :)))

That was damn nice to hear.

So:

1 - I won the rat

2 - I haven't had to pay a penny of the $65,000 in outstanding court costs.

3 - I have criminal charges accepted and a criminal investigation going for the first case.

4 - And I have a strong law suit against my first attorney.

I've won 4 out of 4... not bad for a green kid ;)))

I need nappy!

And... I'm actually going to shoot guns on Thursday - yippy :)))))))))))

'lito

CatShooter
Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 22:19:20 (ZULU)

'Lito, Congrats again,Thats some kind of legal-ese.

Joe M,Sounds like ya got it figured.Custody = child support,b'tween school tuiton,books and what not of full time school,workin full time....You're gonna own the situation.

UnPat

UnPat
Wi, USA - Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 22:39:43 (ZULU)

UnPat: Maybe...or not. But, it sure is nice having "direction" in life. Gotta admit, my world done turned inside out, upside down there for a few weeks. My grasp of the obvious was....uh, well, lacking!

Lito: Pro se is huge. I know where my pro se begins, and how quickly afterwards it has to end. I'm hiring help immediately after the first filing. I do not have the time right now to even contemplate that learning curve you endured.

Joe M
Tuesday, September 23, 2008, at 23:54:04 (ZULU)

HDR re: Winchester primers

Since 1988 I've used 10's of thousands of WSP's (silver and gold versions), thousands of silver WSR's, and hundreds of WLR in silver and gold version. So far, I haven't had any experiences that would make me regret using them. (I have had less than 5 units out of all that which had ignition issues, but the circumstances were all marginal or had other variables included - so the primer may not even have been at fault.)

When I exhaust my stock of the legacy design silver WSR, I may switch to the CCI BR SR primers. I've read cautions in other sources about the gold WSR primers being a bit soft for AR15 pattern usage (piercing, possible floating firing pin slamfire issues).

Winchester primers are easiest to access thru distribution in this area. A major Canadian commercial ammo remanufacturer also uses Winchester primers, I suspect he would switch if he had significant issues with ignition reliability. (Wolf Bullets in Kingston, Ontario).

http://www.wolfbullets.com/

Not to be confused with the US company with a similar name.

(Wolf Performance Ammunition)

rod regier
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Wednesday, September 24, 2008, at 00:29:44 (ZULU)

Joe M,

Understandable.We got some news today that blew any frame of mind I had right out the window.Took the night off,Got my hands in too many moving parts.

This past June,Angel went in for some blood work on a referal from her doc.The outfit she was refered to said "We will call if the results show anything significant." Angel calls them after waiting the required time and they tell her all the tests were clear.

Today,she went to see her doc....At the top of the stack that makes up her med file were the test results.

Acute 3rd stage kidney failure.

Now,I have no clue how many stages there are to kidney failure.But I would say that is plenty significant enough to warrant a phone call.Angel's doc didnt mention anything about dialysis,or donor surgery.And Angel was too floored to ask.Her doc is rerunnin the tests on a chance that maybe they mixed up the blood....Wouldnt be the first time.

************

A buddy bought a Tikka T3 left hand...Sweet lil rifle.Headin up to the range to sight that and the new Mk 4 I picked up.

UnPat

UnPat
Wi., USA - Wednesday, September 24, 2008, at 04:11:42 (ZULU)

'Lito,

Despite the animus between us I wanted to say congrats on the way the legal stuff is going.

Good work. Keep it up.

jcopeland
Cordova, TN, United States - Wednesday, September 24, 2008, at 06:48:53 (ZULU)

jc...

>"Despite the animus between us...."<

I ain't got no ananamuse against you...

:))

'lito

CatShooter
Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Wednesday, September 24, 2008, at 13:14:14 (ZULU)

Unpat...

Kidney failure can be temporary due to infection or insult (physical injury or chemical exposure). I believe 'third stage' refers to a healing state, where the kidney is getting better.

I would expect the doc to run a series of tests including urine, ultra-sound, rerun of the bloodwork to look for change, etc.

medicjim
Wednesday, September 24, 2008, at 13:24:27 (ZULU)

Morning Guys,

Just checking in to see what you have all been up to.

Catman,

Glad to hear your good news!!! Invitation still holds on a place to stay if you ever get out this way.

Joe M.

Sorry to hear about your problems. Divorce can be a real bitch!! When my wife wanted a divorce I didn't fight for custody because I just thought she would be the better parent but I was wronge!!! If you think you will do a better job, you go for it.

Pat
Wednesday, September 24, 2008, at 15:13:15 (ZULU)

Some Wednesday afternoon entertainment....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNAohtjG14c&feature=related

Duman
Wednesday, September 24, 2008, at 23:10:24 (ZULU)

Gents: The game is on. October 14th is the first hearing--and, the really important one. It will decide who lives where...even the little whos.

Until yesterday, I was just walking in circles. And I mean that literally for big chunks of daylight. No ideas, no directions, just "shit."

But, another timely intervention by my rosterfarians got me off my duff and into action; thanks for the advice and the support.

And a special thanks to Geoff, who looked me in the eye today and said "You are not alone..." Only he didn't say anything out loud.

And for all that youz bumz gave me, I have to thank ya most for snapping me out of the self pity...While i still hate that I have to deal with this at all---at least I can now deal with it.

No more open details until the fat lady sings. I plan to go civil, and hope to enter a contract for the same with her. No lawyers, just merits---the only thing that matters is what is in the best interest of our children now and down the road. Failing that of course, I know what I will have to do and how badly that will go...and the regret I will have in the aftermath. Lawyers are the only winners...everybody else, including the kiddies---lose.

Here's to a civil "best case" on merits alone. God, I hope she understands how an adversarial lawyered-up proceeding can only get ugly. I'll take my chances with a positive case presented to mediation over what I went thru for Blake...any day!!!

Joe M
Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 02:03:35 (ZULU)

Joe: I'd keep the GAP. You never know when it could come in handy.

CDC'
Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 02:55:34 (ZULU)

Definately. Keep it and find some other stuff to sell. I've sold many over the years and I regret almost everyone of them. You'd be kicking yourself for that one Joe.

MarcS
East S.F. Bay area, CA, - Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 03:46:31 (ZULU)

Joe M,

You might be able to "pawn" some of your stuff to, oh say... Bravo or some other dudes, then get 'em out of hock at a later date. With interest due, of course. Probably in the form of beer or some other libation.

Fight the good fight.

Duman
Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 03:59:45 (ZULU)

I just saw a thread about a new Japanese scope manufacturer on the 'Hide. Kelbly is selling them. They say costs are around 2,500 + but that's not listed on the site.

http://www.kelbly.com/scopes.html

'Lito- One poster had this to say about an accessory that is supposed to help reduce mirage:

"The reducer ring does indeed help with cutting through the mirage. Once I put this on my March's, I have left them on. What it does is it does darken the sight picture, 1/3 to 1/2 stop. But you get a good increase in depth of focus, just like stopping down an aperture on a camera lens."

What the hell is he talking about?

MarcS
East S.F. Bay area, CA, - Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 04:40:52 (ZULU)

MarcS,

The aperture on a camera lens adjust the amount of light that passes through the lens, or scope in this case.

Try this experiment sometime. Make yourself a round cardboard, or material of your choice, cover for the objective lens on your riflescope. Cut a hole in the center of cover about the size of a quarter.

Get yourself out to the range, or anywhere you have some distance and some mirage. Look through your scope with that quarter size hole limiting the amount of light that comes through and report back to us and tell us what you experienced looking through that small, roughly 24mm hole as opposed to a 40mm, 50mm, or 56mm objective lens.

I bet you'll be surprised.

jcopeland
Cordova, TN, United States - Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 05:34:54 (ZULU)

Medicjim,

Your's was the best soundin so far.Still waitin to hear from the doc to try and figure out next step.Thanks.

Joe M,

Cant offer ya much more then a cold Guinness and a couch,but if ya need a mind clear,Jump on the bike,take a ride.C'mon down.Gotta warn ya tho....It's still a concrete jungle down here.

UnPat

UnPat
Wi, USA - Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 05:49:15 (ZULU)

MarcS...

I have talked about those apertures on this site three or four times over the years.

They do work.

I'm off to shoot guns (really :))) and I will add more to this later tonight.

'lito

CatShooter
Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 12:19:34 (ZULU)

Lito I don't want you to rehash something you've already gone over several times. I'll dig back and find it. I'm going to drill a hole in the objective flip cap and see how it looks on a bad mirage day :)

I wish you a great day at the range with no thoughts of legal issues at any time!

MarcS
East S.F. Bay area, CA, - Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 14:24:07 (ZULU)

McCain wants to delay the debate and focus onthe economy in his day-job as senator. Obama says "hell, no."

If I was running the GOp campaign, I'd be doing this too. And I'd pray the opposition took the bait, as it appears to be now. Have McCain in front of every camera for the next 48 hours in chambers, the floor and his office, explaining what is going on and what needs to happen yet, and where he sees it....and:

Then just show up last minute for the debate, and say "foriegn policy? Unlike my opponent, i do not need to walk away from a major crisis just to prepare for this little debate. I was ready for it 20 years ago."

The image would be enduring: Obama had to pass on the single most significant act facing this nation just to "bone up" on possible CnC duties, while the other guy went to do some serious work and then just waltzed up and took on his opponent almost as an after-thought. The contrast would be stunning. If this is his plan, it is brilliant.

If he pulls it all off, it could be the ultimate game changer.

That all said, the possible bail out is the only thing the guvmint has left aside from panic. And, as I see it, the bail out is a bad idea all around, and targeting the symptoms, not the disease. But a bail out of this size will delay erosion until after November.

Joe M
Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 15:44:11 (ZULU)

The GAP riffle is easily the most desirable stick in the safe, Easy money. But, as of this minute in time, this is money I do not "need" yet.

My idea (dream) for this particular rifle is to hand it to my son. His near-term goal is to become a sniper, and he has a serious head start down that road already. If God is willing, this will be his Christmas present. Being a youth and prone to easy mistakes, he will only see it as a "loaner" for practice, a tool I loaned to help him achieve a goal. Once I feel he fully understands the true value of such things, I'll let slip the secret of his ownership...

That is my hope. About all I have, too.

Joe M
Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 16:04:19 (ZULU)

That rifle is not an object as much as it is a power. I'd hold on to it.

CDC'
Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 16:31:52 (ZULU)

re: mirage and objective lense effective diameter

A physics grad student with an interest in astronomy told me an interesting factoid years ago. Apparently stronomical telescopes with smaller diameter objective apertures provide better "seeing" during periods of gteater atmospheric turbulence. If you thought mirage was bad looking thru a mere 1000 meters of disturbed air, try 20,000+ meters of disturbed air :-(

Likely a similar aperture effect to that being discussed for riflescopes...

rod regier
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 16:53:30 (ZULU)

Hmmm

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/?rss

C-smurf? Isn't this a National Guard primary mission...

OK, now I'm concerned.

medicjim
Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 18:41:59 (ZULU)

MedicJim,

Yes, it is a National Guard mission. But consider the following:

a. the Guard is fully engaged in supporting the fight in Afghanistan and Iraq. The Texas State Militia seems to be taking over that mission there. Do you see a trend?

b. no one wants to try to coordinate with 50 Adjutant Generals and the Governor's staff in an emergency, especially when a lot of people are involved.

c. the National Guard lives in the area affected by the emergency and they WILL take care of their families before reporting to the Armory. There's nothing wrong with this, it's a simple fact of life. The emergency zone is often in shambles and they can't get there. In some states, NG units in an affected area are not mobilized for several days; units outside the affected area are called up first.

d. the assets are available at Ft Stewart, controlled centrally and staffed with experienced people.

e. The Civil Defense structure and the ability of citizens to take care of themselves has been destroyed by lack of leadership and the nanny state.

f. Yes, it is worrisome, for the reasons you think. President Bush made a mistake when he made it a "federal" responsibility instead of a "national" responsibility.

Trajan

Trajan Aurelius
Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 19:15:19 (ZULU)

Dang - again, I go away for a few hours and you guys are as chatty as a bunch of women.

Ok, ok - I get it. I'm not that thick :))

Joe M...

Hang on to it. At the expense of sounding dark - a rifle defines your space in times of trouble (which may not be all that far away).

'lito

CatShooter
Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 21:51:22 (ZULU)

The fecal material is hitting the rotary oscillator... and folks are calling their congress-persons. This may be the watershed event that actually triggers some changes.

Will they listen?

CDC', if you have some links to good articles on the situation, please post them at your convenience.

Duman
Friday, September 26, 2008, at 04:32:56 (ZULU)

Duman: Click for one that has nothing to do with the financial meltdown. It seems that the NRA is running some ads that Obama doesn't like. Obama is threatening the broadcast licenses of stations running the ad. The ads are true.

One comment on a supporting link was; "I guess the big O plans to bring us together by silencing all contrary opinions."

Chicago politics; Like it?

CDC'
Friday, September 26, 2008, at 09:20:06 (ZULU)

Click for another page on the same subject.

CDC'
Friday, September 26, 2008, at 10:33:17 (ZULU)

Yet another.

A comment on this page is, "This is not about Obama supporting gun rights or opposing gun rights. It's about his use of lawyers, and, if elected, use of the federal government, to shut down stations that oppose him."

You can substitute "anyone" for "stations" in the above statement.

CDC'
Friday, September 26, 2008, at 10:45:01 (ZULU)

MacBeth didn't know insomnia like I know insomnia.

Click for "Missouri Sheriffs & Top Prosecutors Form Obama "Truth Squads" & Threaten Libel Charges Against Obama Critics".

This includes Our Savior personally saying, ""It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where WHITE FOLKS' GREED RUNS A WORLD IN NEED, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere... That's the world! On which hope sits!"

I'm feeling Hope already. Aren't you?

CDC'
Friday, September 26, 2008, at 11:09:06 (ZULU)

Joe, if that young man needs a sling or cuff to fit him let me know and I will contribute to Christmas Gift

Mike/Undude

Mike Miller
Ca, - Friday, September 26, 2008, at 15:51:36 (ZULU)

weather Country-

Kyle is supposed to pay my AO a visit Sunday/Monday.

With luck it will just be a tropical storm by then. Current forecasts have it bearing west of here...

rod regier
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Friday, September 26, 2008, at 16:48:47 (ZULU)

From a Brit financial article:

"Vladimer Putin is salivating over the prospects of an Obama/ Biden win in November, which essentially hands him the keys to the Ural/ Caspian Crude production."

Well, this is entirely true, but it just doesn't mean squat. Only a rare voter with an undertanding of geopolitics and economics could grasp the downside---while the vast majority of Amercians just exercize their franchise obliviously and with no regard to such dangers.

The list could go on and on, but who cares? Well, we do...but really? Is amerika up to the task of selecting its own best interests in this or any election anymore?

Lito: I'll keep something that will hold a group tighter than I can....and that pretty much starts at the stock stealth level. I have few guns that shoot worse than I do:)) Yeah, I would prefer to keep SCLE47...but, Blake is a dang good choice too. Some units allow "specialty" rifles to deploy that are not necessarily army-owned (but that are similar in design). I had Guardsmen take shorty uppers; a recruiter has a pic of him and his 338LM TRG in the 'stan---with a duece patch on his shoulder...etc, etc.

Mike M: This one has one of your finest slings on it already:))

Now, an SCLE combat vet?---that is one cool ass thought:)) I'd pay an artist to paint A'stan on the stock, with the province AO "popped out to the fore" with dates and details inscribed...Hey, I gotta have something to smile about.

Not much else lately...

Joe M
Friday, September 26, 2008, at 19:39:37 (ZULU)

Mike Miller, sent you an e-mail RE: the sling you told me about at the norcal match, did you get it? Joe

Joe Ducos
Turlock, CA, USA - Friday, September 26, 2008, at 23:32:01 (ZULU)

'lito,

Nice to hear things are finally going in the right direction.

Joe M.,

Don't ever give up hope. Things will eventually get better.

Hawgs,

Just finished Stephen Hunter's latest Bob Lee Swagger novel, "Night of Thunder". It's a good easy read of 287 pages.

Cheers,

Doc

Doc Holloway
The balmy Ozark boonies, MO, USA - Saturday, September 27, 2008, at 05:01:01 (ZULU)

CDC'

>This includes Our Savior personally saying, ""It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where WHITE FOLKS' GREED RUNS A WORLD IN NEED, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere... That's the world! On which hope sits!"

I'm feeling Hope already. Aren't you?<

I'm feeling something, but I think it may just be reflux. ;-))

jc
Cordova, TN, United States - Saturday, September 27, 2008, at 05:42:54 (ZULU)

Post removed. I was innocently watching slo-mo bullet impacts (click) when that one came up. For some reason I posted it.

CDC'
Saturday, September 27, 2008, at 07:41:04 (ZULU)

Here's an interesting U-tube video on the housing/market woes. Runs about 9 minutes. turn up your sound and watch to the end....

Paste this link or click my name.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

Ken

Ken Hunter
Nokesville, Va, Keep America - God Fearing, Armed and Free!!!.. - Saturday, September 27, 2008, at 14:29:02 (ZULU)

I grew up being taught that "to bitch about a problem is to be part of the problem, but to bitch AND offer solutions is the way to go."

Often, problem ID is the first mistake. You guys wtached me nibble my way around the economic problem long before the media caught on to the problem, but without much more than a vague solution (slash guvmint spending, raise rates, and eat the recession to save the fiat money).

Here's my idea today:

The bail out, as proposed, will cure the symptom of frozen dredit and sub markets, but will also kill the patient, our Mr. Greenback at the same time. "We were forced to destroy the village in order to save it..." The problem is "credit is tight." OK--but nobody asked why? yet, nor have they looked at a solution to the why. It is tight, because investors are scared of the losses they may hold--and want money now. Money is moving in the wrong direction because of this problem. Banks are afraid that these losses, if called, exceed their checking account balance today. Like AIG---plenty of money available--just not ready cash today.

So:

Instead of fucking the taxpayer and just buying out all the crap from the banking indistry and investment funds....JUST AMMORATIZE THE LOSSES OVER ONE, OR FIVE, OR TEN YEARS!!!!!! IN OTHER WORDS, LEAVE THE RISK ON WALL STREET, BUT TAKE DIRECT ACTION TO SPREAD THAT LOSS OVER A MUCH LONGER TIME!!! By removing the spectre of "absorb this loss right now" from the balance sheets of banks, they can focus on restructuring over a longer term. Yes, this will reduce credit (without it shutting down though) over those rebuild years, but the dollar will actually benefit from a little contraction in terms of value.

Those pesky house repubs that are taking media heat are closer to stumbling into this idea than any one else.

Of course, I really ain't all that crazy about maintaining the status quo in the first place, so this crisis looks good in terms of undermining fiat monies---something that we need to face someday anyway. But, if you want to have this cake and eat it too---any solution that dumps dollars on the problem only fuels fire elsewhere creating new problems. To save both, keep the risk where it is, and just buy them time.

How? By guvmint backed long term loans against purchase value of questionable assets. Fucking simple as that. Think of it as mortgages on the banking house itself. Instead of "bill due today" you have "bill due in equal instalments for years." Add a little punitive incentive to make good in there for fun, and you take the issue to the back of the line.

Joe M
Saturday, September 27, 2008, at 16:31:20 (ZULU)

Alright Joe I'll take the bait.. Here's my solution.. Sell off all the loans from freddie and fannie. Let the banks fail then pay the federally insured creditors with the proceeds from the sale of f&f. Abolish the capital gains tax and the death tax. Track down the commie criminals that brought us this mess and hang them. ( take a good hard look at sarbanes/oxely for a start). In general get the government out of financial market. Do away with the federal reserve ( I'm being way to optimistic now) and return to a proper fractional banking system based on objective standards like precious metals. Somehow force the government to live within it's means... like go to a national sales tax. That way if they try some stupid socialist experiment it hurts them when it hurts us. Income tax needs to go to..

I ask you, could you live with that ? Could you really live better by keeping all the money you make with you and only you deciding where and when to spend it ? Do you think that is to much freedom ?

Just some thoughts for ya..

Calvin

PS had a real good day at the range on monday hint, hint Ken Hunter !

Calvin
e-burg, MD, U.S.A - Saturday, September 27, 2008, at 17:43:18 (ZULU)

Pete Linclon.........

You may want to take a look at this series of posts on 6mmbr.

http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/6mmbr/vpost?id=2990917

Bolt out!

Bolt
NC, - Saturday, September 27, 2008, at 17:48:20 (ZULU)

Gents.....run whatcha brung, it's the user more than the tool, etc. That said, I thought this was funny so here it is. Hopefully it's good for a chuckle.

"1 In the beginning was the 1911, and the 1911 was THE pistol, and it was good. And behold the Lord said, "Thou shalt not muck with my disciple John's design for it is good and it workith. For John made the 1911, and lo all of his weapons, from the designs which I, the Lord, gave him upon the mountain."

2 "And shouldst thou muck with it, and hang all manner of foul implements upon it, and profane its internal parts, thou shalt surely have malfunctions, and in the midst of battle thou shalt surely come to harm."

3 And as the ages passed men in their ignorance and arrogance didst forget the word of the Lord and began to profane the 1911. The tribe of the gamesman did place recoil spring guides and extended slide releases upon the 1911 and their metal smiths didst tighten the tolerances and alter parts to their liking, their clearness of mind being clouded by lust.

4 Their artisans did hang all manner of foul implements upon the 1911 and did so alter it that it became impractical to purchase. For lo, the artisans didst charge a great tax upon the purchasers of the 1911 so that the lowly field worker could not afford one. And the profaning of the internal parts didst render it unworkable when the dust of the land fell upon it.

5 And lo, they didst install adjustable sights, which are an abomination unto the Lord. For they doth break and lose their zero when thou dost need true aim. And those who have done so will be slain in great numbers by their enemies in the great battle. a

6 And it came to pass that the Lord didst see the abomination wrought by man and didst cause, as he had warned, fearful malfunctions to come upon the abominations and upon the artisans who thought they could do no wrong.

7 Seeing the malfunctions and the confusion of men, the lord of the underworld did see an opportunity to further ensnare man and didst bring forth pistols made of plastic, whose form was such that they looked and felt like a brick, yet the eyes of man being clouded, they were consumed by the plastic pistol and did buy vast quantities of them.

8 And being a deceitful spirit the lord of the underworld did make these plastic pistols unamenable to the artisans of earth and they were unable to muck much with the design, and lo these pistols did appear to function.

9 And the evil one also brought forth pistols in which the trigger didst both cock and fire them and which require a "dingus" to make them appear safe.

10 But man being stupid did not understand these new pistols and didst proceed to shoot themselves with the plastic pistol and with the trigger cocking pistols for lo their manual of arms required great intelligence which man had long since forsaken. Yet man continue to gloat over these new pistols blaming evil forces for the negligent discharges which they themselves had committed.

11 And when man had been totally ensnared with the plastic pistol, the lord of the underworld didst cause a plague of the terrible Ka-Boom to descend upon man and the plastic pistols delivered their retribution upon men. And there was a great wailing and gnashing of teeth in the land.

12 Then seeing that the eyes of man were slowly being opened and that man was truly sorrowful for his sinful misdeeds, the Lord did send his messengers in the form of artisans who did hear and obey the teachings of the prophet and who didst restore the profaned 1911s to their proper configuration, and lo, to the amazement of men they didst begin to work as the prophet had intended.

13 And the men of the land didst drive out the charlatans and profaners from the land, and there was joy and peace in the land, except for the evil sprits which tried occasionally to prey on the men and women of the land and who were sent to the place of eternal damnation b by the followers of John."

Geoff M
WI, USA - Saturday, September 27, 2008, at 23:34:36 (ZULU)

.338 LM -- several of you had mentioned .338LM, interest, etc. There are several Armalite AR30's on gunbroker.com. They're in the 15-16 hundreds -- that's a darn good price....

click my name or go to: http://www.gunbroker.com

Take care all,

Ken

Ken Hunter
Nokesville, Va, Keep America - God Fearing, Armed and Free!!!.. - Sunday, September 28, 2008, at 04:34:57 (ZULU)

A deal seems to have been reached on the financial meltdown. The AP story included the line, "Also, the government would receive stock warrants in return for the bailout relief, giving taxpayers a chance to share in financial companies' future profits."

Isn't that a pleasant way of saying the companies have been nationalized? We are on the road to serfdom.

I wonder if the final bill will include pork for ACORN, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. Frank and Dodd were a huge part of making this mess. Now they are cashing in.

Watch the Fox vid of the Dems coming out of the negoiations then making their statements. Schumer, Dodd, Frank et al look like cats who have swallowed canaries. Schumer's smugness is palpable.

Why aren't the House Repubs there sharing in the smiles?

Answer: We got screwed.

CDC'
Sunday, September 28, 2008, at 12:53:45 (ZULU)

Click for a National Review article on ACORN and its association with Obama. As I understand it, 20% of recovered profits were to go to this outfit.

CDC'
Sunday, September 28, 2008, at 13:07:08 (ZULU)

Another one. This one is shorter.

People keep asking what a "Community Organizer" does. This is it.

CDC'
Sunday, September 28, 2008, at 13:11:22 (ZULU)

Click for the WSJ's repoet on the bailout deal. Make sure to read the "Mean Streets" link on the right side of the page.

CDC'
Sunday, September 28, 2008, at 15:00:30 (ZULU)

It appears that there are now three parties, Democraps, Republicraps, and Independacraps. None are worth a crap and still don't give a damn about hanging the taxpayers out to dry. What's next? Nuff said.........

Bolt out!

Bolt
NC, - Sunday, September 28, 2008, at 15:09:52 (ZULU)

Click for a "Financial Crisis for Dummies" vid. It seems to be accurate.

CDC'
Sunday, September 28, 2008, at 15:13:31 (ZULU)

Bolt: The problem they are addressing is tremendous sums are tied up in securitized mortgages (a bundle that, by the laws of average, is more predictable on default than any single mortgage alone). These were once considered "asset" rather than obligation, since the value of the collateral was always going up. But no one explained this to the chumps, who said "no way I'm payin' dat fer dat house." So, the lesser chumps realized they bought into the peak of the bubble. The pyramid found its final level. Then, because many on the fringe of all this were "flipping" on bets, they had to dump asap. Other factors came into play, but a trend of downward prices fell upon the land. But the securitized mortgages had a head start on all this, flowing thru the financial structure spread sheets everywhere (wachovia is the latest victim). Well, when liquidity becomes a problem, such assets are just sold on the market. But, now nobody wants to touch these instruments with a ten foot dollar. No buyers, no cash. No cash, no loans. That about sums it up.

Our heroes in the treasury (TeamBush) and congress now have fixated on the most intellectually lazy COA available; simply have the guvmint buy 'em all up at a high enough rate to further inject cash into a broke lending system. It is a "need cash right now" problem, and those massive injection of cash all summer long by the fed had no effect. The securitzed mortgages were poisonous; nobody could say how many within each were in default, or how many were performing and at what rates any single one was at for returns--in short, these things were discovered, after trillions were dumped on them, to be "the emperor's new clothes." And, then the major players took a look in their vaults, and said "JHC! We have a shitload of these thangs." Once worth, say 45 mil per, now worth nothing without a buyer---and this scene was happening in every major bank worldwide. No money to lend once these things stopped turning over on the open market. Then it looked pretty dire, since the entire economy runs on debt (oddly enough).

Ya know, now woulda been a good time to revisit Lincoln's idea for monetary policy, or indeed the colonial script system that drove Brit bankers bonkers:)) Or, if you really have to save the flawed system we have, then just structure tiered loans to the banks against the balance sheet values of the securities...but not to just buy them up wholesale with the fruit of our children's labor.

FWIW, calls to congress are overwhelmingly against such a deal. Merikans may be dumb at times, but maybe we still got good instincts.

Bailout: Flood the world with dollars now, whose value is to be set later by your kids, and your kid's kids. That, my friends, is yet another poison. To save the patient, we had to kil the patient...and the surgical team, the hospital administration, and all the bystanders too. Not so brilliant.

Schumer, Frank and the rest can gloat....but as sure as the sun rises, this will come back to haunt them. The world already voted last week on what they think of dollar floods: Gold and oil spiked. Tight credit is recessionary; failed currency is worse--far worse.

I can hear these guys now, behind their closed doors: "Screw the world...they wouldn't dare dump the greenback..."

Joe M
Sunday, September 28, 2008, at 16:03:24 (ZULU)

"Click for a "Financial Crisis for Dummies" vid. It seems to be accurate...."

CDC - that's the video that I posted several entries further back.....

Ken

Ken Hunter
Nokesville, Va, Keep America - God Fearing, Armed and Free!!!.. - Sunday, September 28, 2008, at 17:13:42 (ZULU)

Ken: It seems I was talking when I should have been listening.

Gentlemen: Click for an explaination of Dems' attempt to use the bailout as a means of funding their Looney Toon activists.

CDC'
Sunday, September 28, 2008, at 19:58:00 (ZULU)

I've got a scope i want to put different turrets on. I know theres a company out there that sells what i want. I believe it's Keaton Industries, but i can't find it. Any help appreciated.

Gary Kaney
NW, ILL, - Monday, September 29, 2008, at 11:18:47 (ZULU)

For custom turrets... http://www.kentonindustries.com/

John
NW, WI, - Monday, September 29, 2008, at 11:58:09 (ZULU)

Gary - email inbound from me with no attachments

medicjim
Monday, September 29, 2008, at 12:50:27 (ZULU)

The easiest way to understand this bailout: Congress will borrow 3/4 trillion against the future....they will then use this debt to buy bad debt off wall street. Think about that. Taking otu a massive loan...to buy debt.

Hey..since this is going so well for wall street---

Any of youz guys willing to take out a loan to buy me a truck? If I can get two or more of ya to agree, someonemight get paid back too.

Ponzi must be smiling' huge.

Joe M
Monday, September 29, 2008, at 14:12:38 (ZULU)

Gents: I am now a de facto single parent. She moved on.

Joe M
Monday, September 29, 2008, at 14:20:27 (ZULU)

Joe:

What the hell?

Charles Hunt
San Antonio, Texas, USA - Monday, September 29, 2008, at 15:26:32 (ZULU)

Joe M.,

I hope that's a step in the right direction.

Cheers,

Doc

Doc Holloway
The rainy Ozark boonies, MO, USA - Monday, September 29, 2008, at 15:30:34 (ZULU)

Chuck: She packed her things, and left. Went to live with her "just a friend."

Doc: I'm good with this:))

Joe M
Monday, September 29, 2008, at 15:49:41 (ZULU)

Weather Country:

Hurricane Kyle brushed past SW corner of Nova Scotia as a cat 1.

My AO (Halifax) was on the east coast, we just got some 90 km/hr winds and 20mm of rainfall. No significant power interruptions.

http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/hurricane/statements_e.html

" Gusts of 102 km/h were Measured at mcnab's island.And gusts to around 80 km/h occurred in and around the Halifax area."

rod regier
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Monday, September 29, 2008, at 16:30:42 (ZULU)

Joe:

If the moment is right, have your lawyers get something in writing. She may change her mind later :-(

rod regier
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Monday, September 29, 2008, at 16:37:13 (ZULU)

Joe M...

>"The easiest way to understand this bailout: Congress will borrow 3/4 trillion against the future....they will then use this debt to buy bad debt off wall street. Think about that. Taking otu a massive loan...to buy debt."<

Now wait a damn minute.

Isn't this the reason that the Dems (aka Liberals) said we can't "privatize" SSI.... because the stock market is "Sooooooo badd", that the American public couldn't trust even 1% of SSI payments to the stock market... now they want to dump $700,000,000,000 (that's a LOT of fuckin' money) in this same badd market?

What is it that I don't understand here - could it be that it is because the Dems get the bulk of doations from this source???

'lito

Now,

CatShooter
Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Monday, September 29, 2008, at 17:04:00 (ZULU)

Lito: The dems, and mainly Schumer and rangell, have been using FM/FM to push a socialist agenda of minority loans upon the market. Clinton and the dems CRA law forced the subprime concept on to bankers--a naturally cautious lot as we all recall from our younger days. Qulaifying for a home loan was a major step into adulthood, once upon a time. So, they are standing there today with the dim realization that, if the public got smart--they, and the party itself, would be toasted, roasted and tossed. So, sleight-of-hand, some smoke, a few mirrors and we blame it on "greed." So far, nobody asked the obvious question: If the bankers are greedy, why'd they toss their money at so many bad credit risks? Why indeed...they sure as hell didn't want to in the past---I know firsthand:)) A 19 year old couldn't get a home loan...and, as easy as it is for me to see thru this, the media seems to be on their side and the country isn't hip to the underlying BS yet.

Now, it is slowly coming to light that FM/FM and countrywide made "sweetheart deals" to our esteemed reps in congress by the score! The Rezko thing with Obama has roots in subprime companies and a below market transfer of a nice house...corruption isn't always as obvious as an envelope full of C-notes. But where is the media on this story? "They" chose a side, and are carrying their water. Bias in the media is enabling as hell, isn't it?

Joe M
Monday, September 29, 2008, at 18:40:21 (ZULU)

"economy" is generally understood to be the processes where I, you and they can exchange our services for other goods. We use the buck as the medium of exchange. Now, as time goes by, we want more stuff than we have services to exchange for right now--so we borrow forward the value of our future services, like when we buy a house. We get the beast up front, on the promise we'll pay through our labors over time. Collaterallized debt. Good stuff; it makes the world go round. But, nobody was satisfied with just necessities, we wanted pleasure too, and more of it. Congress, consumers, brokers--we all schemed ways to borrow forward our labor's value to play today---unsecured debt; not good and brings the world to a halt if called in early. No house to sell, ya know--to make good on it:)) Well, this problem was fed, not subdued by Greenspan. To avoid the necessary contraction that self adjusts an out-of-whack demand that pulled supply from the future (works both ways, now that I think about it--through more debt by increasing production on the basis of--get this---the assumption that we'd eventually be able to borrow past the grave), So, the cyclic contractions of credit that bring things back into sustainment were shorted-out by unnaturally low interest rates, in an effort to just keep the good times going. But nobody has any damned idea when enough is enough--when is someone or some entity in debt beyond their life expectancy??? The market forces that usually kick it down a notch were overridden, and whatever natural point of contraction came and went.

So, where does this leave us now? How much debt is there? The fed's debt alone is mindboggling, world mortgages edges the fed out by some 2-4 trillion (Ha! no body knows for certain!), and us'n consumers live on a plastic diet. I'm not sure either---but I think we past it in 1996 or so.

By ballooning negative equity up so very, very far--we set the stage for something we ain't seen yet. I made my predictions, and I stand by them. Doesn't matter that the congress balked on the bail out today; the fed just dumped their vaults unto the markets. Barter will put us squarely back to 1885. The dollar is doing well today you say? Yeah, but only because a bank failure in England over the weekend was a much largr percent of their GDP than any five of ours could be...they are in even worse shape than us--for now. So the dollar is holding--again, for now. Contradictory movements do make a theory wrong---you have to know "the rest of the story."

I sure hope congress thinks a little about the problem before they try again. I also stand by this: If the banking world cannot eat their mistakes all at once, find a plan that spreads their losses over a few years. They still eat it, but they can take their time between bites:)) Yes, this is recessionary tactics. Yes, that means bad things. But as I said--a failed dollar is worse by far.

Joe M
Monday, September 29, 2008, at 20:59:05 (ZULU)

Vent Mode "ON"...

Let's see...

I've paid a lot of $$ into Social Security (not by choice), my retirement age pushed out to 67.5, and won't see any $$ from that.

My pension plan was eliminated after some federal judge set a precedent by allowing United Airlines to default on their pension plan (while UA CEO got $20M parachute).

My salary is frozen because engineering jobs are being shipped to India and China, and saying 'foul!' will get you fired.

My 401K is now a 104K, with no end in sight. Market dropped ~777 points today.

We got the Patriot Act and Homeland Security out of a hysterical reaction to 9/11.

We entered into the Iraq quagmire because Bush wanted to invade Iraq, and he lied to the country.

Iran, headed by Ahmindeedanutjob, is developing nukes and wants to wipe out Israel, the US, and just about everyone else.

Russia is becoming a threat once more. CDC' once said ".. it's ok to bury the hatchet with them, as long as you coat it in Cosmoline."

Pakistan is a powder keg... with nukes.

The national debt stands at ~$11T, and we're about to give $700B to the same schmucks that got us into this mess.

Congress passed a $400B prescription drug plan that was written by the pharmaceutical lobby.

My congressman wants to take away my guns.

Both candidates for President are Democraps. The only bright spot is Sarah Palin (if she can avoid talking to the press). "McCain/MILF'08"

At least I didn't make the mistake of getting married along the way.

I'm playing by the rules, and the only people getting ahead are the criminals in Washington and Wall Street.

I wonder what the hell is gonna happen next.....

OK, venting mode switched to "off".

Duman
Monday, September 29, 2008, at 22:24:57 (ZULU)

Duman: "I wonder what the hell is gonna happen next....."

Beats me, but I'm glad this bill went down. Giving fiat power to the Treasury Secretary would make the country Socialist. I'm not selling my soul to the Devil.

CDC'
Monday, September 29, 2008, at 23:32:23 (ZULU)

Duman:

That wasn't a rant, that was a sitrep :-(

rod regier
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Monday, September 29, 2008, at 23:37:27 (ZULU)

I'm about to start reloading for my 7MM Rem Mag and I have no experience with belted mags.

I'm told that the belt can cause some problems and a collet sizing die was recommended. It is supposed to eliminate the problem of an enlarged ring around the base of the case just in front of the belt, which cannot be reached with a standard FL resizing die. Here is a link to the die maker that was recommended:

http://www.larrywillis.com/

Do you guys think this is something I should get or is it bullshit? I just ordered a set of Redding dies with a type "S" bushing full length resizer and a competition seater only because they're all I've used. Any opinions there would also be appreciated.

This is just for a hunting rifle by the way. Factory Remmy sporter.

MarcS
East S.F. Bay area, CA, - Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 03:44:55 (ZULU)

"At least I didn't make the mistake of getting married along the way."

OK, Duman...I do have a sense of humor today...last week, maybe not, but this week things are looking up.

Heheh.

Joe M
Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 04:03:36 (ZULU)

Click for C-Span 2 House hearings vid "Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis".

The Dems did this and now they want authority to be put in charge of a command economy.

CDC'
Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 04:07:04 (ZULU)

Someone send me some links about this GAP rifle and some of the conversions for the AR that convert it to .50, 338LM Thanks

Financial Crisis Country: I just let them fix it. I've got nothing in the bank, stock market, or even the wallet at the moment. I just hope it gets fixed in time for the farmers to get crop loans to pay me next year for this years flying. Seems thats where the government/wall street is getting their economic lessons from anyway. "Take out a loan next year to pay the credit bills you created last year."

Jeff "not the Col" Cooper
Gadsden, TN, - Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 12:28:08 (ZULU)

MArcs,

Don't get to fancy with a hunting rifle.. Full length dies should do you just fine. Go for the small base/belt sizer thingy if you have problems chambering a fired case after sizing... Problem I've found with belted stuff is the QC on the belts seem to vary wildly. Find a gauge that measures the belt size and segregate your cases accordingly. Also alot of trouble you may run into with expanded bases is just poor QC on the composition of the brass in the first place and there's simply nothing you can do about that..

Hope that helps some

Calvin

Calvin
e-burg, MD, U.S.A - Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 13:11:53 (ZULU)

I Gots no charge cards.

I Gots no debt.

And I'm 95% financially invisible.

My Jungle Truck is paid for.

So are my guns.

I must be some kind of anarchist misfit or somfin'.

'lito

CatShooter
Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 13:39:29 (ZULU)

I like articles that agree with me:)) Click. This is the first I've seen that outlines slashing government as necessary and urgent. I oughta send this writer my spare tin hat...

Lito: I could be there in the 95% invisible range much sooner than i thought. The dissolution of my LLC (the wife) comes with great opportunity to retire debt wholesale. That, and she lives beyond my means---no matter how I've expanded those means.

...always look at the bright side of life, ta-dum, ta-dum-de-dum-de-dum...

(Rod will get that as sure as the sun rises)

Joe M
Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 15:01:51 (ZULU)

I'll be retiring most of my debt next week, all I'll have left is the mortgage. And, unless they totally frack up the economy, that will be amortized by this time next year. After that....no debt, Boudicca still works, a halfway-decent pension. I might even be able to learn how to fish. Last time I went fishing, I wasted a whole box of ammo and dint get a damned thing.

If I remember my history correctly, the people that got really hurt during the last Depression were those that carried too much debt to pay. Anyone who was running debt-free muddled through. Hopefully, we'll have a year before the whole house of cards comes apart.

Whoever gets elected, they better do something, fast, about this place. An Iraqi-type surge would be a good start. The Talibs are making some really ugly gains in the area around Kabul. Every time we get out on the roads, now, we think that today's the day....it's not a matter of "if", just "when" we get hit. The Embassy is just too tempting a media target now. We shall see.....

Charles Hunt
San Antonio, Texas, USA - Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 15:26:52 (ZULU)

A post for Bravo:

"Blake. Now there’s a subject of scurrying thru hell to get to heaven. The early-mid teen years were, in my mind at the time, my greatest failure ever. I tried everything; carrots, sticks, sensory deprivation, lecture, analogy and parables, church, counseling---nothing worked. Or so it seemed then and there. Little did I realize at the time, but I was doing exactly what he needed me to do. I was simply trying and I never gave up. It may not matter what you do---just so long as you do. I guess if I wanted to be analytical (as if I could help myself here), he was facing an uncertain world, his basic trust in security and those childhood safety nets was being challenged and outright broken on the rocks of reality—and his response was to hit everything around him with his hammer---just to see if it was brittle and would fail him too. But his dad, he did not break or even dent. He just stood there taking it for years—and still kept trying to be there for his son. He finally understood that I wasn’t like the rest of his childhood securities that had failed him; that I was in fact his rock and his safety. But for me, I only saw it then and there as one day he was bucking the system, then another day he was exhibiting traits I tried so hard to instill all those years—as if by magic. Really, for so long I thought, “Good lord forgive me, for I have trained a felon upon this society.” Heheh. Boy, was I wrong about that!"

There it is dude, I think I figured out the rebellion. Its simply the cold hard reality of the real world shattering the concepts of childhood, and the insecurity arising from the failures of all the underpinnings that a child can take for granted in his early years. The backlash isn't personal--it is just an attempt to test the foundations of everything--because everything was once on seemingly solid foundations. And, it carries over to you, too.

As for Blake: Likely in the A'stan o/a January. I've put off worrying about that for now:))

Joe M
Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 15:55:54 (ZULU)

Joe - "Life of Brian"...one of my favorites.

medicjim
Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 16:31:33 (ZULU)

Ditto on Joe's post. I first met my boy when he was four. I married his Mom when he was ten and the wild ride began. We pretty much tried everything that Joe did. Some of the counselors were idiots and a couple were outstanding. Kids have to have guidelines and limits and in fact they actually want them. One of the counselors asked how we would like to try crossing the Golden Gate Bridge at night in a dense fog if we knew there weren't any guard rails! That's pretty much how a kid feels if they don't have limits. The greatest compliment I ever received was when he told a friend,"Dad is my Dad; but Doc is my rock".

Cheers,

Doc

Doc Holloway
The sunny Ozark boonies, MO, USA - Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 16:36:40 (ZULU)

If the economy tanks, let it. Those of us (and most of us here fall into this category) that have no debt OR have skills that will ALWAYS be worth something, will get out from under it and be just fine. Like 'Lito, my truck and cars are paid off. I have no credit card debt and no mortgage, I'm living the philosophy of cheap rent and putting my money into other, less ethereal things. My first wife did me much more of a favor than she'll ever know.....we bought our little slice of country at the height of the pricing insanity, her decision to go get a boyfriend and take off meant I couldn't afford the payments. I made a hard choice to not declare bankruptcy and eat the mistake. In the end, once this correction hits and things settle down, I'll be able to buy a nicer place for half the cost. :-) And I'm STILL rid of her. That's called a WIN/WIN.

In reality, W is right, we ARE fundamentally sound, populated with a majority that is willing to continue to work hard, pay their bills, and the economy will right itself if left alone. The ones who are going to pay hard, are the low income people who shouldn't have had mortgages in the first place, and the very rich who's net worth is tied up in Wall Street. The very biggest segment squealing like pigs being drug to the slaughter are the wealthy insiders and players who perpetrated this mess upon us to begin with and bet millions of their own money on it in the process. They are the ones crying "the sky is falling, YOU need to save us and the entire economy". Two phrases come to mind.

1. Bullshit.

2. Fuck 'em!

People will still work, people still need to eat, etc. I doubt a "great depression" scenario. The bailout is a big scam to save the net worth of the very rich, and the American People aren't buying it as evidenced by a reported 10:1 ratio of "NO" calls to congress....calls that have overloaded the switchboards and servers in DC. Can the CRA NOW, eliminate these stupid requirements to loan money to people that can't afford it, no-knock every ACORN office, throw every democrap that has taken contributions from Freddie/Fanny and the CEOs who elected to profit in the short term from what they KNEW was an unsustainable policy that would crash (and planned on a bailout from the beginning), and let the real capitalists take over to ethically feed on the scraps for bargains. In that activity is the beginning of a recovery.

If it DOES all tumble down.......bring on the crash. Some of us will succeed regardless, and a complete meltdown would bring with it opportunity to "throw the bumz out" once and for all and fix a lot of things that need fixing with our "government".

Geoff M
WI, USA - Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 16:44:41 (ZULU)

Geoff: Opportunity, yes. But the timing must be just sooo right. I seem to recall another collapse, and things changed significantly then too: The US abandoned any remaining pretense to adhere to the constitution and embarked on our current socialist trends; some bumz named Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and Tojo went from obscurity to the fore; and then all hell kinda broke loose.

We are fundementally sound in only one respect. The economy itself is, overall, still chugging. Hmmm. Time for an anology (I'm nothing if not predictable, ain't I): The economy is a big bouncing ball. All our attention is now laser focused on it. This ball is inflated with consumer spending, return rates of investment capital, long term debt obligations (yeah--mortgages too), and all the other segments that fills it up and gives it its bounce. Right now, it is a little low on pressure, but it is still certainly bouncing (your fundementals at work). But, with little exception--all eyes are on that bouncing ball. No one is looking at the floor that it is bouncing on: That would be our currency---the almighty dollar. So, in essense, we are taking pieces of the floor, and using it to try to pump up our bouncing ball. If we are only concerned about our ball, we just might pull the floor out from under it....and the ball, fully inflated and ready to bounce, will fall into the abyss.

dang...one of my better ones:))

News 18 wants to interview me on policy. I said yes. If the segment gets the green light, I'll burn a few minutes of my 15:))

Joe M
Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 17:40:34 (ZULU)

Thanks Calvin.

MarcS
East S.F. Bay are, CA, - Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 18:04:14 (ZULU)

Boy, talk about gloom and doom. <g>

I finally made some purchases on the stock market today...been sitting in all liquid assets for quite some time.

medicjim
Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 18:51:35 (ZULU)

Joe, thanks for the moral support. Gonna head in today for the parent teacher conference. Should be a blast. He's amazingly bright, but pulls Stupid Stuff(R) far too often for my taste. The silly thing is that I *EXPECT* kids to do silly stuff and get in trouble (that's just kids, eh?) - I'm just continually surprised at the nature of the Stupid Stuff(R) that he picks. He gets 'tattled on' for shooting stuff off the front deck (neighbors weren't "bothered", but felt he shouldn't have been shooting where he was) and that's a "you know better than that" and pass it over 'cause I knew he was safe (not where he should be, but taking safe shots) - it's the stuff that points to a lack of responsibility and character that eats at my gut like no tomorrow.

Jim, I cut back my investment contributions to 0% a while back - it was better for me to pay off the here-and-now (to become debt free) than to dump money into a sink-hole. At least in my opinion.

Last month I had "a talk" with my broker (er, the way my investments give returns, maybe I should call him a 'breaker' LOL!). Re-started putting money in - very little money.

First question was "what are my options as far as things not valuated in amirikan greenbacks". And I got my answer - which lead to the next question "and out of these, which ones aren't valuated in a currency pegged to the amirikan dollar". The few got about 80% of my investment.

I know if our economy goes, the world tanks too. But I figure the delay might give me a SLIGHT bit of time to pull out.

The middle of next month would have been the last payment I needed on my truck - but I paid it off back in February instead. Intentionally, I looked at the lower interest rate secured debt of my truck, and weighed that against the small, higher interest, unsecured debt of the credit card. Paid the truck off. I'm gonna own what I own, regardless ;-) Got the TOTAL debt paid down to about 5% of my annual income, but then felt the need to put in a couple of big orders for mags yesterday. Before the anti-gun socialist gets elected - since BOTH of them are anti-gun socialists, one is gonna win, eh?

Another two days and I'll have the 7.62 NATO brass tumbled and ready to size and swage the primer pockets. Been doing 200 per day for just over a month now (GRIN)

Beans, Bullets, Bandaids.

And Shooby-dooby-Duman (that's what Frank Sinatra would call 'ya, if he were still alive HA!) I hear you mightily on that marriage comment. If I had a nickel for every two nickels I owned - it would have been an equitable division of assests :-(

"he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"

Bravo
Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 19:33:37 (ZULU)

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